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Bulls Eye 
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 Topic: The New Automag Part 3Posted: 25 Nov 2023 at 1:59am |
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Mtn_Eagle
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Posted: 24 Nov 2023 at 5:04pm |
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Finally some good news!!!
From: Patrick Henry III, Founder of Auto Mag Ltd. Co. |
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TankMan
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Posted: 31 Oct 2023 at 4:34pm |
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I remember watching either that or a similar video but somehow I missed that barrel swap feature. That's interesting.
The 'heady days' when we all hoped that these really would be available in all those great variants. I really do hope the new AM recovers. Jerry |
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BEEMER1
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Posted: 23 Oct 2023 at 8:05pm |
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Did Larry make the first 22 guns, or did he make the parts that were used in the New guns?
Here is what I have been told about the Excel Arms produced guns by Patrick and some fairly reliable sources. I was not there so you can say this is hearsay. Patrick started production at Excel because Larry worked there. They started producing the newly designed upper ends with machined and threaded barrels and new bolts and the new bolt lug design. They were going to use the 500+ left over frame castings to make new AMPs. These castings had long been rumored to left over because they were out of tolerance form the original production. Larry made all of the Harry Sanford Commemorative AMPs from these castings, but Larry can do things that no one else can do. They made up several variants for the 2018 SHOT Show where they were displayed. Here is a video of that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtrRmFczsjA I paid for my Founder's Editions in September of 2017 and had a 90 day delivery. They started producing guns and it was slower than they had anticipated. Patrick kept in touch with me letting me know the status. Patrick finally said he could get me a Pistol but they were having some problems and he was not satisfied with the final product as far as reliablility. He said if I waited, he would get me a better set of FEs and I said OK. I finally took delivery in December of 2020. Finally he decided that the product they were making was not of the quality he desired, the process was way too slow, and the production costs were way too high and they stopped production at Excel. Many of the old frame castings were destroyed then. I was told by Patrick that FE-1 to FE-22 were made from the old frames and had the new uppers but none of the improvements to the lower end. I believe all of those were made at Excel but I am not sure. All of those FEs that I have seen are marked Excel as in this picture.  With all the FEs and SHOT Show guns and guns made for personal use, I do not know how many AMPs were made by Larry at Excel Arms. Excel has since gone out of business.
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TankMan
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Posted: 23 Oct 2023 at 3:27am |
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One of the main reasons I initially placed an order early on for an FE edition was that I'd been told that the pistols could be made with an original 'grandfathered" frame which would have classified it as a C and R gun allowing it to be brought into California due to that status. C and R guns are exempt from the 'roster' requirements.
That ability went out the window some time after I placed my order which would have made getting the thing here problematic at best. So that figured into my decision to ask for a refund some while later. I had a chance to get a relatively rare (at least here in the US) 1/10 scale military vehicle truck model and wanted to jump on it: A Kaelble Z6W2a 130 heavy load tractor (Zuglastmaschine) complete with Culemeyer type 80 tieflader (24 wheel lowboy). So that trumped my desire for the FE edition which was exceedingly iffy by then due to the stupid laws here. I have zero regrets.... That doesn't mean I still don't want a new AMP but now I can wait. I have two originals and one of the only 8" uppers the new Auto Mag folks sold. Jerry |
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Bulls Eye
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Posted: 23 Oct 2023 at 12:33am |
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Did Larry make the first 22 guns, or did he make the parts that were used in the New guns?
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BEEMER1
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Posted: 22 Oct 2023 at 7:29pm |
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We really do not know how many of the Founder's Editions were made actually. The serial numbered guns from FE-01 to FE-22 were made at Excel Industries with old frames and many old parts by Larry Grosman. There could probably been some later numbers made there also. We do not know how many of the FE numberd frames could have been rejected later and had to be destroyed per ATF regulations. I am sure that Auto Mag Ltd has records but they are the only ones who know for sure. The ATF keeps records for each manufacturer but the most curret records published for public view are 2020 and Loris reported 15 guns made. I have no idea about the Raven's numbers and never asked.
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Pantera Mike
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Posted: 22 Oct 2023 at 6:36pm |
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I wonder if the Ravens used their own serial number range, perhaps starting with 400? Given that it’s such a boutique product and there has been a willingness to provide custom serial numbers, it’s perhaps difficult to correlate serial numbers with actual production numbers. Auto Mag has always been quite coy about their production. We knew about the Founders Editions but we really don’t know how many Classic/Raven guns have been made, do we?
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BEEMER1
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Posted: 22 Oct 2023 at 3:05pm |
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I'm glad your son finally got his pistol.
I have a Raven that is serial number CE-402.
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Littlefieldk
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Posted: 22 Oct 2023 at 1:51am |
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Odd, Mine was ordered in Jan 2018, I received it on Nov 21st 2021 CE68
At least he got it
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