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   Hi Everyone, 

Looking for some advice. 

I was shooting last night and one of my automage was just not firing. 

After a little look about and comparing it to my functioning AutoMag it looks like I am in need of a new spring. 

Afterlooking at the functioning automag:

Functioning automag : right hand side

Non functioning automag : right hand side

As the spring is not applying any kind of tension the trigger bar is not getting any engagement and has the feel of the safty being on all the time. 

So what can anyone tell me about the spring? Sadly, it may
not be something I can replace easily so I am looking for number of coil’s it
is supposed to have, rate etc etc so I can go on the look in the UK for something
that can be used. 

The next question will be hot to replace it without stripping the pistol down  but lets find one first. 

Thanks in advance.

Ian 

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Ian Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 629	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ian Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Part 37 - Trigger bar spring Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 11:28am
	Hi Everyone, Looking for some advice. I was shooting last night and one of my automage was just not firing. After a little look about and comparing it to my functioning AutoMag it looks like I am in need of a new spring. Afterlooking at the functioning automag: Functioning automag : right hand side Non functioning automag : right hand side As the spring is not applying any kind of tension the trigger bar is not getting any engagement and has the feel of the safty being on all the time. So what can anyone tell me about the spring? Sadly, it may not be something I can replace easily so I am looking for number of coil’s it is supposed to have, rate etc etc so I can go on the look in the UK for something that can be used. The next question will be hot to replace it without stripping the pistol down but lets find one first. Thanks in advance. Ian
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Auto Mag Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Callahan's Auto Mag Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Location: MA Status: Offline Points: 2091	Post Options Post Reply Quote Auto Mag Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 12:59pm
	A couple of observations: You may want to take the time to do a full tear-down and cleaning, I think I see powder foulings and coagulated oil. I think your initial problem was not a failure of the spring, but one of the epoxy that holds the spring in place at its base. In later guns, they drilled/machined a pocket for the spring to sit in to prevent the damage you are experiencing now that the spring is floating around unrestrained from the surface is should sit on. The spring itself should not be hard to find, I think you will find it without too much trouble from the several vendors currently marketing AM parts. Its should be a quick fix, than back to the fun of burning massive quantities of powder ;-) ATB GH
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Rocketthon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List International Auto Mag Joined: 13 Apr 2013 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 226	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rocketthon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 2:05pm
	I agree with the cleaning. another thing to check is the rotate spring, my gun right now is going to get a tear down and clean which should include taking the bolt spring out of the cocking piece and cleaning the old off and putting new on. While you are at it the sear spring right behind the spring that is broken in the pictures needs to be checked and made sure it is secure in its little mount pocket and has good tension. a failure there will cause a double fire, I know that real well and it will scare the crap out of you.
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Auto Mag Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Callahan's Auto Mag Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Location: MA Status: Offline Points: 2091	Post Options Post Reply Quote Auto Mag Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 2:31pm
	People often ignore the hammer springs as well, it seems to be a place where lots of dirt builds up if you shoot enough. Thats why I suggested a full teardown. GH
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TRX302 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Callahan's Auto Mag Joined: 02 Dec 2011 Location: Arkansas Status: Offline Points: 676	Post Options Post Reply Quote TRX302 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 2:54pm
	Search on "springs" and there's a chart I made with all of the Auto Mag springs by coil and wire diameter, length, and end shape. Wait, here it is: http://www.amtguns.info/which-spring-is-which_topic1049.html

Ian Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 629	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ian Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 3:18pm
	Thanks all, While there may be quite a few places in the US to order the dprings getting them to ship to the UK is a bit of a nightmare. George Good spot, I did not even see the missing epoxy something to take down with me when I find the replacement spring. Thanks Dave, with the information in the spring post I have all I need to find what I am looking for. I will also begin a full strip down and clean of both of them as they will be almost as bad as each other on SUnday when I can get access to them again, that may take longer than finding the spring, the jous of British gun laws. Ian
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edkel1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Callahan's Auto Mag Joined: 02 Apr 2019 Location: So/Cal Status: Offline Points: 350	Post Options Post Reply Quote edkel1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 5:16pm
	Ian Are you saying no one will send you springs because of British gun laws ???????? Just a FYI Brian is no longer selling any Auto mag parts, he is making an inventory list for a potential buyer so does anyone have an idea of others that might have that part ???????? I would try contacting Bruce Stark or Patrick at the new Auto Mag Inc or maybe a member might have one or more they are willing to part with ??????? If you get me the part number I will see who has them and get you as many as you want and mail them to you just let me know. That's one of the reasons of this board, to help one another out. Ed
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edkel1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Callahan's Auto Mag Joined: 02 Apr 2019 Location: So/Cal Status: Offline Points: 350	Post Options Post Reply Quote edkel1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 5:20pm
	TRX302 Any chance of you sending that spring chart to my email ????????????? I would really appreciate that Thanks Ed edkel1@sbcglobal.net
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Ian Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Admin Group Joined: 07 Mar 2008 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 629	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ian Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 5:33pm
	Hi Ed, No for a change the UK government would be OK with them as they are just springs as they are not seen as a component part of a gun, the same goes for mags, grips etc etc. It would be items like the finished frame, barrel and other component parts that would be an issue on this side of the pond. As the springs are gun parts it is my understanding that they fall under ITAR as they are gun parts, the last things I would want if for anyone to get in trouble hence the need to get the spring specifications so I can find something in the UK. Ian
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edkel1 Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Callahan's Auto Mag Joined: 02 Apr 2019 Location: So/Cal Status: Offline Points: 350	Post Options Post Reply Quote edkel1 Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 02 Sep 2019 at 5:43pm
	Ian If you change your mind plmk. Don't those springs work for other items too ????? and just wanted to let you know about Brian's for parts, it's just going to get harder and harder to find spare parts. Let me know if I can help you out in any way Ed
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Part 37 - Trigger bar spring