AMT 22 Prototype?
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Topic: AMT 22 Prototype?
Posted By: hrly94
Subject: AMT 22 Prototype?
Date Posted: 18 Oct 2011 at 9:50pm
| uploads/458/002.JPG" rel="nofollow - uploads/458/002.JPG Hello, I have a 22 Pistol with a 16"Stainless Barrel. The Frame States Arcadia Machine and Tool 22 Long Rifle Made is USA Covina,Ca 91722. The Frame is Blued and Looks Like a Ruger Lower and The Receiver is Stainless and Looks Like a Ruger Design with Fixed Sights Front and Rear and Dovetailed for a Scope Mount. Want to Say it May be a Early Lightning,But the Lightning Frame is more Squared off. The Serial Number is Interesting also G003200. I Just Became a Member and Have Not Yet Took any Photos. Any Insight Relative to What it may be would be Appreciated. Thanks,Jim |
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Posted By: Auto Mag
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 2:49am
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I think what you have is an AMT accessory Bbl mounted on a Ruger frame.
I don't think that was sold as a complete gun that way from AMT.
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Posted By: hrly94
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 11:55am
| Hello, Thanks for the Reply. The Receiver is Marked Arcadia Machine and Tool. No Markings on the Barrel and Where the Barrel is Inserted into the Receiver it Looks Factory. I Think it is a Rifle Barrel.....The Pistol Looks Brand New and I don't see any Assembly Markings Showing any Scratches from Fitting. To the Best of My Knowledge, I don't think a 10/22 Rifle Barrel would be Compatible with a MK II Pistol Receiver without Modifications.... Now there is Always a Possibility a Gunsmith put it Together. If that were to be True, He would have had to Have a AMT Pistol Receiver (Upper) Factory Etched with Company Name and Serial No., The Receiver is Not Like a Lightning Receiver,but More Like a Ruger MK II ( See Photo). He Would then have to have a Blue MK II Lower Frame and Modify a Rifle Barrel to Fit a Otherwise Same as MK II Upper Receiver Marked AMT. Listing the Variables and Possibilities, Still Question it being a Prototype? To the Best of My Knowlwdge there is Very Limited Shared Knowledge about This Manufacturer, Thats why I Joined this Sight. Thoughts and Comments or Suggestions are always Welcomed, Thanks,Jim |
Posted By: 7mmMKsuper
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 2:12pm
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hrly94, I can not say how many, or in what lengths, but I believe that George's assessment is correct, it is an AMT accessory barrel, on a Ruger frame, see add in below link. http://amt.glossover.co.uk/pdf/Guns%20and%20Ammo%20-%20August%201983%20-%20Ruger%20Extension%20Barrels%20ad.pdf" rel="nofollow - http://amt.glossover.co.uk/pdf/Guns%20and%20Ammo%20-%20August%201983%20-%20Ruger%20Extension%20Barrels%20ad.pdf So even if a gunsmith put it together, they did it on one of these receivers. Just my two cents, MK P.S. IAN's site has more good info if you want to check it out. http://amt.glossover.co.uk/" rel="nofollow - http://amt.glossover.co.uk/ |
Posted By: hrly94
Date Posted: 19 Oct 2011 at 11:12pm
| Hello, I Beleive You are Both Correct and I can't Thank You Both Enough For Your Help in Researching My Amt 22. Now I will Look for a 16" Barrel as a Option for a Ruger. Maybe I will get Lucky and Find it in Some Out of the way Place. Really Appreciate it Gentlemen. Thanks,Jim |
Posted By: sirsaka
Date Posted: 29 Oct 2011 at 6:37am
| The replies are right on. This is indeed an accessory barrel that AMT made prior to making the lightning pistols. They are very nicely made and came in different lengths, tapered and bull. |
Posted By: Chopperdoc
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2012 at 2:34am
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Glad I stumbled on this thread..I have a 10" bull barrel (extention) It is in great shape complete with Millett sights. Any idea what these are worth? Thanks Vic
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Posted By: sirsaka
Date Posted: 06 Jan 2012 at 12:41am
Beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder. What you have is a production item but in that length, not many were sold. I will attest to the fact that AMT aftermarket barrels are some of the finest products they made. AMT's gundrilling/rifling is the best and always got great reviews. I love the "Arcadia Machine & Tool" logo they used on these barrels. Ask about $500.00 and see what you get for a response. If someone wants it, they will pay the price. Just a thought. 
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Posted By: Pontiaker
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2012 at 4:31am
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I recently sold my 10.5 inch AMT Barrel on a Ruger frame for like $450 on the forum here. I only sold it becasue I got that baby Automag lookalike cheap. Matt |
Posted By: sirsaka
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2012 at 3:13am
| That was probably a descent price Matt. I advised chopperdoc to try and sell his barrel for $500.00 because there is probably someone out there that would pay the price, since the barrels are no longer being made and can be considered collector items. |
Posted By: Frogman
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2012 at 6:14pm
| Here's some info that I got from another site you might find interesting - Crap my cut & past isn't working, I'll have to find it later, sorry. |
Posted By: Frogman
Date Posted: 15 Apr 2012 at 6:23pm
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Is it an AMT or a Ruger conversion? Went digging through some old stuff
and came up with an AMT ad if it's a Lightning/AMT the ad says: 4 barrel length options 6 1/2, 8 1/2, 10 1/2, 12 1/2, Clarke trigger w/adjustable stops standard sights w/windage adjustments grooved for scope mount squared off trigger guard for two hand holding interchangalbe barrels 5"-12 1/2" stainless steel button rifled diamond finished barrels custom match barrels out of the box custom wrap around grips also there were bull barrels available and adjustable (Micro) sights available at extra cost for what its worth it also states LIFETIME WARRANTY |
Posted By: sirsaka
Date Posted: 16 Apr 2012 at 5:49am
Some of the verbage tells me they are AMT barrels. They are: Optional barrel lengths; standard sights w/windage adjustments; grooved for scope mount; diamond finished barrels; button rifled. Also there is certain verbage that tells me it is an AMT pistol. They are: Clarke trigger w/adjustable stops & squared off trigger guard for two hand holding. Of course without seeing the pics I can't say for sure but it sure sounds like an AMT set. |
Frogman wrote:Posted By: us55840
Date Posted: 22 May 2012 at 10:41pm
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On January 19, 2006 there was an AMT Lightning with the 16" bbl offered for sale in GUNSAMERICA by the FFL ~ Boise Gun Company. GunsAmerica auction # 976678180. I printed off a copy of the sale listing with the photo. The asking price was $599.00 plus $15 shipping within the lower 48. I wish I had purchased it and must have been brain  .Some time earlier there was one for sale on Gunbroker. The fellow that had it for sale claimed the AMT Lightning pistol with the 16" bbl were very rare and if memory serves me correctly, stated only about a dozen were actually made ... compete pistols with the AMT ss lightning lower and wood grips. I was not aware there were 16" barrels for pistols sold individually. |
Posted By: Desert Jim
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2012 at 4:08pm
| I found this site because I was seeking information on a long barrel AMT that I own and am looking to sell. It has a 10 1/2 inch bull barrel mounted in what I've always thought was a Ruger frame. It has a Bushnell Centurion 2.5 Scope mounted above the windage adjustable sites. It's in as close to perfect condition as possible, no scrapes, no mars, pretty much as it must have come out of the box originally. Looks like it should bring $550 to $600. Now the question, does anyone here know where I should list it for sale or have any better idea of value. Thanks, Jim |
Posted By: sirsaka
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2012 at 5:06pm
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Jim,
Gunbroker would be my choice. I would list as a 30 day auction and see what happens. Your price may be a little high but some may be willing to pay even more. Ya never know.  ------------- Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. |
Posted By: Desert Jim
Date Posted: 06 Sep 2012 at 5:29pm
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Thanks Sirsaka, I'll get in touch with them. Jim
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Posted By: Pontiaker
Date Posted: 07 Sep 2012 at 2:45am
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Is the frame blue or stainless steel? If it is a AMT Lightning it will be stainless only and you can see the differences by comparing your frame to a Ruger frame, look at the trigger guard closely, the front of it for different shapes, among other things.I think your value might be a little high, I sold mine here for about $400. If you in CA you might get a little more for it on Calguns.com If you want top dollar and know all the little details to make an auction work, Gunbroker or just a sale listing at GunsAmerica.com Good luck with the sale. Matt |
Posted By: Desert Jim
Date Posted: 09 Sep 2012 at 7:23pm
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Thanks Matt. It is a stainless barrel on a blued frame. I'm not sure what you mean about the trigger guard - looks "normal" to me. I wonder if I'd be better off removing the barrel and trying to sell it separately? Sorry to keep this going, but I really do appreciate the help and input. It's a gun I bought "used" some years ago, have enjoyed shooting it occasionally and now find that I just don't shoot at all - at 70 years old my arm strength just isn't what it once was  Jim
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Posted By: sirsaka
Date Posted: 10 Sep 2012 at 3:08am
There is nothing wrong with selling as a complete gun. I've seen many and I personally think the stainless AMT barrel on a blued frame has a nice contrast. I'd go as far as to say it's worth more in it's current configuration than it would be if it was just a Ruger Mark II pistol. In other words, I view the longer stainless steel AMT barrel as an upgrade.  ------------- Our greatest glory is not in never falling, but in rising every time we fall. |
Posted By: XP001
Date Posted: 08 Jan 2013 at 7:25am
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