The New Automag Part 3
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Topic: The New Automag Part 3
Posted By: Flatlander
Subject: The New Automag Part 3
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 3:14am
| I am anxiously awaiting my Classic and I wanted to read more about others getting and sharing their new guns. In the spirit of the new and following a suggestion from part 2 let’s kick off part 3! I can start with I have a rap around grip, Safari Land 101 LH and 100 rounds. Looking forward to parring them all up together! |
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Posted By: BEEMER1
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 1:04pm
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I can start this off with some bad news. A friend of mine received his Founder's Edition on Monday and it came in with some damage, I do not know the extent of it. The guns were shipped in the wooden case and double boxed in heavy cardboard boxes. I felt mine were packed very well. Apparently the package was dropped hard enough to break open the wooden case and some damage was incurred. That is all I know.
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Posted By: Flatlander
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 1:31pm
| This is horrible. I’m betting on the Automag team making it right for him. Beemer please keep us up-to-date |
Posted By: TankMan
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 2:26pm
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I know some folks will get miffed (or worse) at this but I have quite a bit of experience with how things get packed and what works and what doesn't, I've received relatively fragile, very heavy models from all over the world during my hobby 'career'. I've seen everything from expertly made wooden packing cases with superb internal packing with restraints to flimsy cardboard boxes with soiled bed pillows as packing.... With shipping, any service's employees are not your goods' friends, there's always the unexpected, rough, nearly destructive handling is NOT the exception and the only indication that something was packed correctly for the journey is if it arrives on the other end intact. I've seen $4,000+ models that started out pristine only to arrive as a ersatz 'kit' on the other end.... Always 'over pack'. Jerry |
Posted By: CE-1
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 3:08pm
A custom gun builder from the Guild once told me of the big three, he only uses USPS. Said over the years, he has received fewer damaged stocks and firearms when they were used. I've kept that in mind over the years and have not had any issues with damage. All firearms should be packaged like they were a carton of eggs. 
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Posted By: Auto Mag
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 3:27pm
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Its a heavy gun and given the way I have seen some delivery drivers throw packages around in their trucks and when delivering to the front door, I am not at all surprised by anything I hear about shipping damage. Unfortunate kick off to say the least. ------------- Who was that masked man,,, |
Posted By: Pantera Mike
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 3:57pm
| The gun should not be shipped in the presentation case. It’s just a display case. The gun should be shipped in a hard plastic, foam-lined gun shipping box with the presentation case alongside. |
Posted By: Luvz2Shoot
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 4:10pm
Agreed! Every firearm that I have ever shipped, I have informed the buyer that there will be 2 packages. One is the case, manual, paperwork, mags, etc. The other package will be the firearm itself. The firearm is always wrapped in [clean] cloth of some sort, then overly wrapped with bubble wrap. I also give two options. 1. Send the case, manual, paperwork, etc. directly to them, and the firearm to the FFL. 2. Send both packages to the FFL. I HATE receiving a firearm that has been poorly packed and then bounced around inside the case. I hope that Beemers friend was just a one-time incident. ------------- If you were happy and you knew it, would you clap your hands? |
Pantera Mike wrote:Posted By: Auto Mag
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 4:55pm
Well said. Hope the damage was very superficial,,, Hate to hear of a pretty polished gun damaged before it even gets to the buyer, thats got to be the worst,,, ------------- Who was that masked man,,, |
Posted By: BEEMER1
Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 9:13pm
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Date Posted: 02 Dec 2020 at 9:19pm
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Posted By: Pantera Mike
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2020 at 2:40am
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I didn’t notice that somebody had started a new thread. I hope the admins merge this with the existing #2 thread. It is they who created that thread and if everybody starts making their own #3, #4, #5 etc it’s going to be chaos. Let the admins handle that.... |
Posted By: Luc V.
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2020 at 7:36am
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What do you all think about start a new topic "The new AUTO MAG production 2020 - ..." to post all information about the new Automag's? It would be easier and faster to find specific information when using the search function in the future. The threads new automag part 1 & 2 have already so many pages to read if you want to know the facts. Later on when the new updated site is ready we could make some subcategories for a more clear reference. Just a thought... Luc V.
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Posted By: Auto Mag
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2020 at 1:58pm
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Either is fine by me. I have no problem understanding part 3, and if people want to change it to anything else that fine to. Just looking forward to seeing shooting reports. ------------- Who was that masked man,,, |
Posted By: Flatlander
Date Posted: 03 Dec 2020 at 5:24pm
| I agree with either as well |
Posted By: Flatlander
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2020 at 12:57am
| Has anyone heard if there were more shipments this week? |
Posted By: TRX302
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2020 at 3:46pm
I once walked out into the back yard and found a long box with a barrel sticking out. The delivery driver had thrown it over the fence, apparently three days before. And it had rained intermittently ever since. There was just a rifle in a box, no packing material of any kind, and there were holes punched through by the barrel and bolt handle. Astoundingly, the rifle was undamaged, and the previous owner had hosed it with some kind of "protectant" that had kept the rust at bay. Yes, it was supposed to be an "adult signature required" delivery... |
Posted By: Auto Mag
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2020 at 4:00pm
I once had a UPS driver fill in the "adult signature required" with "package left at counter" for a 10 1/2" Auto Mag barrel. I can assure you the only "counter" at my house was in the kitchen and he did not go inside my house! Needless to say they never found the barrel, never paid the insurance, the seller never made good on the deal, and no amount of threatening to UPS did any good. The cost to hire a lawyer was more than the cost of the barrel so go who got stuck without his money or barrel,,, I avoid UPS any time I can and have nothing good to say about them as a company. As for sellers and their packing, I still get things that shock me in how poorly that are packed, or the mix of nonsense people will their in the box as filler. Some will use their actual trash just short of garbage. Common sense is mostly gone from our world,,, ------------- Who was that masked man,,, |
Posted By: TankMan
Date Posted: 05 Dec 2020 at 4:17pm
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The best packing I've ever seen for anything was for a set of sodium 'mirrors' used in sensitive infra red spectrometers. They came from Japan in a very sturdy wooden box and from the hardwood wooden frame inside in a small box suspended from thick rubber bands in the center of the wooden box frame the actual items were enclosed. I wish I'd had the ability to take a photo of it. I saw this while working with a customs broker attached to Flying Tiger Airlines in the very early 1970s. As you can see if left an impression on me... Jerry |
Posted By: Auto Mag
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2020 at 3:21am
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Seems like the buyers of the Founders Edition are collectors not shooters. Hopefully some of the buyers of the next batch (Classic or whatever they are called) will provide some range feedback. Still hoping to see a final list of improvements to the new guns, and also the final test report on the 5000 round firing test of the new guns, there may be elements of the test that are applicable to the original Auto Mags. ------------- Who was that masked man,,, |
Posted By: BEEMER1
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2020 at 4:24pm
I will try and get mine out this week and try them. My roof got hailed out this summer and then we went through a 100 mph Derecho Wind Storm which took down trees and I just got the new gutters on the house yesterday to finish repairs . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_2020_Midwest_derecho" rel="nofollow - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/August_2020_Midwest_derecho Don't expect much of a report as I will just put a couple mags through the 8 1/2" and the same for the 6 1/2" to test function and see what it does on paper, that's all. Arthritis in my hands and wrists takes a lot of the fun out of it. I have some great target pistols that are easy on the hands and super accurate. I find it interesting that those who seem to be the most interested in the new guns are the ones who either won't buy one, can't buy one, or are on the fence. Guys, get your check books out, they are the best value in AMP's on today's market, I did, twice. Don't expect any 5000 round report either, they would be foolish to put one out. Test you own guns. JMO |
Posted By: Auto Mag
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2020 at 5:18pm
I thought we were told the torture test report would be released? Has that changed,,, Assuming the data is good, its a great marketing tool and would go a long way to dispelling the still persistent rumors that the AM is not a reliable gun. As far as being interested in shooting reports and buying one, well I for one am interested in user and test reports for all kinds of things I will never buy, expensive cars, aircraft, guns, etc. I will never own my one jet helicopter, but I am always interested in the latest offerings. So for me the new AM is no different, but that said, if it sells reasonably well and the user reports are good, and they change the barrel to a true classic look (not just in name only) AND they certify it for sale in my draconian state (or I move), then I might consider one for a shooter rather then keep using up originals. (Dont want much do I,,,) But then why should I run out and buy one Without the test report, and user feedback? Why do I need another AM,,, For me, it would be like getting a Ruger as a shooter and keeping the more valuable Colts in pristine condition. But only if it meets all the standards I listed above, as the Ruger does by comparison to a Colt. Without exaggeration I think I have well over a million rounds through my Single Six and ZERO rounds through any of my Colt 22 SAA's. The Vaquero is also good analog to the original AM vs the New AM. But to each his own, if someone wanted to keep shooting an original Pasadena/Custom 100/etc and buy a new AM as their safe queen, thats their business. Life is short and enjoy. Well this but one persons opinions, obviously others will have different perspectives. Got to get back to shoveling snow and clearing ice. I find I am liking winter less and less every year. I tolerate it by reminding myself I dont have alligators and poisonous snakes or other nasty creatures in my yard every day,,, ------------- Who was that masked man,,, |
Posted By: BEEMER1
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2020 at 6:55pm
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Patrick calls the shots and he was not the one to say that the a report would be released. As for a marketing tool, all that needs to be said is; " We have just successfully completed a 5,000+ round firing test with full power 44 AMP ammo on a production gun to verify the time proven design of the Auto Mag with our 20+ design improvements and are happy to say with a couple of small design changes we are sure we are producing the best, the most reliable, and the most durable Auto Mag ever made." The thought of the report brings out the "engineer" in all of us but really is not needed to be made public. I am sure I would find the report interesting but I certainly don't think it's needed.. Let's face it George, you and your alter ego have been disparaging the New Company for years on the need for a redesign, the physical appearance of the new barrel, and the time line. You have openly said you do not want a new design Auto Mag and will not buy one so why would they give anyone more ammunition for descent? The new Auto Mags have enough design changes that the tests on them have very little to do with the old AutoMags. You have always talked of the thousands of round you have put through yours, do you need more proof? Again, just my opinion.
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Posted By: Auto Mag
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2020 at 8:53pm
Not sure whats under you skin today Bob, but I am really disappointed to see you throwing down the alter ego slur AND challenging how much I have actually shot Auto Mags when I have been one of the most consistent people on this forum and gone so far out of my way to help other Auto Mag owners when so many of the long time members here have been doing little more than making backdoor connections to build their collections and make money off others. I have probably given away more used AM brass than most here have fired. If somehow you see my questions, concerns, and opinions about the new Auto Mags company as disparaging to you personally, then I apologize, but they are honest questions, observations, and concerns that I am entitled to. Clearly I am not one of the people here who can piss money away on a pair $4K pistols on a whim and wait years for delivery and if thats what gets you a pass here then it is obvious I do not belong. So with that said, I hope you enjoy you new Auto Mags, I will not burden you with my questions, observations, and comments any further nor should you be worrying about any alter ego, I didnt need one in the past, I don't need one now, and I can assure you I will not have one in the future. I will now sign off this forum. Best of Luck to you all. GH ------------- Who was that masked man,,, |
Posted By: BEEMER1
Date Posted: 06 Dec 2020 at 9:35pm
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George, I guess that I did not think that I was saying anything that would make you that mad. I know you have shot the Auto mags a lot of rounds, I guess I got very tired of you and Pasadena Joe bad mouthing the new company and have never under stood why. Sorry to see you go as I meant nothing really. I apologize, as maybe I am just is a sour mood today with all that has gone on here.
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Posted By: Flatlander
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2020 at 3:05am
| It has been 2 weeks since the first pistols shipped. Beemer shared with us his new pride and joy. Since then I may have asked but no one can confirm any other shipments?? The website forum disappeared also. (At least for me) I’m not going to start any conspiracy theories but to advertise on the the website they have limited 25 guns a month, first come first serve just seems a odd? If your not shipping for 2 weeks at a time where are the pistols? The grassy knoll lol ... Just sayin... |
Posted By: edkel1
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2020 at 6:16pm
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What a total shame GH is a very knowledgeable person and an asset to this board, he has helped me out several times  The board is here to learn and ask questions as there are very few experts or should I say people that know whats going on and are not profiting from their knowledge. Hope to see him back. Ed ------------- " Right turn Clyde " |
Posted By: golden24
Date Posted: 10 Dec 2020 at 11:52pm
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Posted By: Ian
Date Posted: 11 Dec 2020 at 12:38pm
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Hi All, Lets cool things down a little please, we are all just trying to enjoy ourselves and get through. Lets draw a line and play nicely. Ian ------------- http://www.amtguns.net" rel="nofollow - Ian's AMT Information Page http://www.glossover.co.uk" rel="nofollow - A little more about me - My corner of the internet |
Posted By: AndyC
Date Posted: 19 Dec 2020 at 7:20am
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I didn't want to start a new thread, so I'll post here. I was watching a weird movie called Dreamland - and an Automag popped up unexpectedly near the end:  ------------- http://bane.2hell.com" rel="nofollow - My Iraq Pics |
Posted By: Ian
Date Posted: 20 Dec 2020 at 3:10pm
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That is a good shot, one more for the reference site thanks :) Ian ------------- http://www.amtguns.net" rel="nofollow - Ian's AMT Information Page http://www.glossover.co.uk" rel="nofollow - A little more about me - My corner of the internet |
Posted By: Pantera Mike
Date Posted: 05 Jan 2021 at 6:39am
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If you haven’t been on the Auto Mag company forum lately, check it out. Rob posted a pic of the prototype for the Classic Edition case: https://my.automag.com/forum/postid/157/" rel="nofollow - https://my.automag.com/forum/postid/157/
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Posted By: Travis Morgan
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2021 at 7:05pm
All the guys that had their guns shipped to them must be so super excited, . . . out test firing and fondling them that they have forgotten all about us here, waiting to see some pictures of your new trophies ! 
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Posted By: Luvz2Shoot
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2021 at 10:16pm
Not me! Still waiting.....
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Posted By: JTaylorIV
Date Posted: 09 Jan 2021 at 10:50pm
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From postings, only five Founders Editions were shipped shortly after Thanksgiving. I do not know of any other FE’s being shipped. Patiently waiting. If anyone has better information, please feel free to provide an update, would be appreciated. ------------- John |
Posted By: Benny123
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2021 at 1:24am
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...There was a delay, guys. For perspective I was a Xmas projected but—as you—waiting. Supposedly production back on |
Posted By: AndyC
Date Posted: 10 Jan 2021 at 3:19am
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I remember hearing about a pistol that was dropped - and then I read that all guns now have to go out in the new plastic cases, so perhaps the 2 are related and the cause of the delay. Just a guess. ------------- http://bane.2hell.com" rel="nofollow - My Iraq Pics |
Posted By: Paper Puncher
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2021 at 9:37pm
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I’m cautiously optimistic that the Founders Edition I ordered 40 months ago will be shipping very soon. I received an e-mail request for a current copy of my dealer’s FFL. Will keep you posted and try to share photos.
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Posted By: AndyC
Date Posted: 13 Jan 2021 at 1:07am
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Nice! :) ------------- http://bane.2hell.com" rel="nofollow - My Iraq Pics |
Posted By: Littlefieldk
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 7:07pm
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My FFL was told Christmas as well. Still waiting.
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Posted By: Pantera Mike
Date Posted: 14 Jan 2021 at 11:20pm
Did you see the status update from two days ago on the Auto Mag corporate forum?
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Posted By: John Nada
Date Posted: 01 Feb 2021 at 12:20am
40 months ago!!!? And I'm crying because I had to wait 14 months for a AR15 upper in 300BLK
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Posted By: AndyC
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2021 at 11:07pm
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I got "the call" from Rob about an hour ago. No ETA but it's nice to know it's getting closer. ------------- http://bane.2hell.com" rel="nofollow - My Iraq Pics |
Posted By: Littlefieldk
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2021 at 3:56pm
| Before you get to excited, my dealer got a call on Nov 23 saying I should have my Automag for Christmas. Still waiting |
Posted By: AndyC
Date Posted: 03 Feb 2021 at 10:11pm
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Oh. Is your dealer a home-based guy like mine or a store? I don't know if it makes any difference but I'm wondering. ------------- http://bane.2hell.com" rel="nofollow - My Iraq Pics |
Posted By: Mark F
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2021 at 1:53pm
I am 7 away from shipping. Sending positive waves,
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Posted By: AndyC
Date Posted: 04 Feb 2021 at 1:59pm
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Oh yeah - congrats!  ------------- http://bane.2hell.com" rel="nofollow - My Iraq Pics |
Posted By: AMPCollector
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2021 at 3:06am
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Got my Founders Edition today!well worth the wait! I don’t know how to include a pic otherwise I would have. Be patient, they are coming! |
Posted By: Pantera Mike
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2021 at 6:30am
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Congrats! Wondering if they are satisfying the early guys or if they have gotten down nearer to the end of the FE list yet..... If you look at the icons above the box where you create messages to the list, you will see one with an image of a tree. Hit that and a new window opens where you can upload photos. The system doesn’t work well, but hopefully you can sort it out? Looking forward to hearing your reflections and first range report!
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Posted By: AMPCollector
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2021 at 1:51pm
I saw early on when I ordered people were requesting serial numbers so I selected 35 ( special to me) and got it .
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Posted By: AndyC
Date Posted: 06 Feb 2021 at 3:41pm
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Gorgeous!
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Posted By: AMPCollector
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2021 at 10:55pm
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Posted By: AMPCollector
Date Posted: 07 Feb 2021 at 10:55pm
| The new and the old |
Posted By: AndyC
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2021 at 7:06am
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Can't see much - it's like looking at a postage stamp. When did you get it? ------------- http://bane.2hell.com" rel="nofollow - My Iraq Pics |
Posted By: Luc V.
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2021 at 8:07am
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I like those grips on the old one, nice! One question if you dont mind, do you feel the difference in pulling the bolt back? The new pistol should be easier to retract the bolt. Thanks.
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Posted By: WVWRZ500N
Date Posted: 08 Feb 2021 at 4:35pm
Could you do a comparison of the two? Maybe a comparison of fit and finish and overall function. How do each compare cocking and locking into battery etc. Regards, Bill Wilson Lee's Summit, MO 816-377-3185
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Posted By: AMPCollector
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2021 at 12:04pm
| Sorry guys but detailed report will be delayed... leaving the country for a few weeks. I can say visually it looks great. Pulling the cocking piece was the first thing I did since videos showed this to be easier. Mine takes considerable effort. Will need to break it in I guess. |
Posted By: AndyC
Date Posted: 09 Feb 2021 at 3:34pm
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Safe travels! ------------- http://bane.2hell.com" rel="nofollow - My Iraq Pics |
Posted By: Dances with AutoMags
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2021 at 5:55pm
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How about a cocking piece that looks like this ? Would that help you cock the gun ?  ------------- An armed society is a polite society. |
Posted By: Dances with AutoMags
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2021 at 6:08pm
Or this ? ------------- An armed society is a polite society. |
Posted By: dbailey71
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2021 at 8:45pm
Got mine in a couple of weeks ago. Been too cold and nasty to shoot it yet, but it is a beauty.  |
Posted By: AndyC
Date Posted: 10 Feb 2021 at 11:18pm
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Very tasty ------------- http://bane.2hell.com" rel="nofollow - My Iraq Pics |
Posted By: Pantera Mike
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2021 at 6:40am
| The label suggests it’s Classic Edition #11 but the box seems like what the Founders Editions are supposed to ship with. Can you confirm what you got, exactly? |
Posted By: Luvz2Shoot
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2021 at 2:55pm
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I was thinking something similar. It indicates that it is Classic Edition #11. Which makes me believe that he received his CE before I received my FE !?!?!? Yes, dbailey, could you please confirm? Thanks. ------------- If you were happy and you knew it, would you clap your hands? |
Posted By: dbailey71
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2021 at 3:31pm
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I ordered a FE on 9-11-17 but switched it recently to the CE due to the engineering changes Patrick and the gang have made that would not have been in the FE. I think he is wanting to take care of all of us who waited 3 years before getting out guns to others who ordered later (which makes perfect sense). The best news is that guns are being produced now so if you ordered one, you should get it sooner than later. |
Posted By: Luvz2Shoot
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2021 at 4:06pm
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Can you remember what changes were made between the CE and FE? Or was this looong ago when they were supposed to use all original parts for the FE, and the CE's were going to get the updates/changes? I ordered Jan. 12, 2018. So mine should be "soon"..... Thanks for the update. BTW, is that the normal case that all AM's will be coming in, or did you opt for an upgrade to the "Presentation Case"? Thanks again for clarifying. ------------- If you were happy and you knew it, would you clap your hands? |
Posted By: dbailey71
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2021 at 5:43pm
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Not sure if all CEs will come with the presentation case. Maybe mine did because it was originally going to be a FE. I know they sell the cases on the website too. Nice case, well worth it. I think Patrick detailed the changes earlier in this thread. I hope you get yours soon.
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Posted By: dbailey71
Date Posted: 11 Feb 2021 at 5:47pm
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Here's what Patrick posted on the auto mag forum: the Founders frames were original castings and when we were using Excel to produce guns they used these frames to make the Founder's and since they put serial numbers on them we had to complete them. We made more than 55 improvements to the Auto Mag since we started but some of these had to be done on a frame with additional surface area to allow us to change the rearward cessation of movement of the bolt from stopping on the bolt ring to the stopping on the front of the frame. Because the variations in the original castings this was not always an option. Frames that stop the bolt on the bolt ring instead of the front of the frame will cause "ring bend" and if enough shots are fired the ring can bend to the point to cause it to not function correctly. In spite of this the other improvements makes the founders far more stronger and more reliable that any original Auto Mag. I have been contacting each Founder's buyer to make them aware of this and basically telling them if your reason for buying is more for collecting you should stay with the Founders but if you are a real shooter and plan on shooting thousands of rounds you might want to switch.
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Posted By: AndyC
Date Posted: 12 Feb 2021 at 5:35pm
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I got the call from Rob - my FE is being shipped today.
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Posted By: AMPCollector
Date Posted: 14 Feb 2021 at 11:45pm
| I am of the understanding that my FE 35 Includes all of the engineering changes that the new company has developed including the new frame. Only the Excel produced Founders Editions Utilized original frames. I don’t know where the serial number cut off occurs for founders editions old frame to new frame. |
Posted By: Pantera Mike
Date Posted: 15 Feb 2021 at 4:06pm
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Deliveries appear to be well into the 30s now, yet we haven’t heard a single range report from anyone? I know it’s a bit cool in some parts of the country right now (!) but surely SOMEBODY must have tried out his new Auto Mag by now?
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Posted By: Paper Puncher
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2021 at 12:22am
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Mike- I’m in the low 40s and plan to shoot it the day I receive it. My dealer is part of an indoor range, so the sub-freezing temperatures we’re experiencing won’t be an issue. I know another frequent poster should have his in the next day or so. Range reports to follow.
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Posted By: Mark F
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2021 at 3:29pm
Me too. Silver Eagle Group in Ashburn VA
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Posted By: AndyC
Date Posted: 16 Feb 2021 at 5:13pm
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Snow, ice and power-outages have delayed mine here in Texas - it was due to arrive today. My plan has always been to take my FFL to shoot it with me (and video it), but right now my house is 40F indoors and I'm spending my time sawing cut-off tree limbs for the fireplace. From the tracking info, looks like it's stuck in KY - miserable weather, just my luck after waiting for this pistol all these years. Edit Feb 19: Pistol made it to Ft Worth, TX - scheduled for FFL delivery on Monday 22 Feb, phew Edit Feb 20: Pistol delivered to FFL - collecting Feb 21.
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Posted By: AndyC
Date Posted: 21 Feb 2021 at 10:35pm
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FE-39 in hand:   Callahan's badge-number:  Shiny:  Tale of the tape:  Hand:   ------------- http://bane.2hell.com" rel="nofollow - My Iraq Pics |
Posted By: AndyC
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2021 at 12:04am
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I wasn't able to shoot it - everyone and their dog was out on the roads so that delayed me to where there was little point going to the range (I would have had to rush). Ah well, they deserve some pleasure after this past week of frozen hell.
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Posted By: dbailey71
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2021 at 12:25am
| Looks great. Was yours hard to rack too? |
Posted By: Benny123
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2021 at 12:39am
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Good,pics. Glad you got yours this month! though I thought you were the guy that requested a matte upper on the founders Dbailey mentioned the action. When you have a chance let us know how it feels, rel. to your old one. ....I’m scheduled for sometime in March, based on my last email to them btw
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Posted By: AndyC
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2021 at 12:46am
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Yes, it's extremely hard to rack (hammer is cocked) - I have pretty strong fingers from playing guitar and it's still very tough to even get the bolt moving. I guess the slickness of the polished cocking-piece doesn't help either. You're right, I did originally request a matte upper but when I got the call I figured it would be simpler to just go with the normal polished finish, seeing as it's a Founders. ------------- http://bane.2hell.com" rel="nofollow - My Iraq Pics |
Posted By: Luc V.
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2021 at 7:51am
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Thanks for the pic's Andy! That is a great looking gun. The personal handwritten card is a very nice touch from Patrick! |
Posted By: golden24
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2021 at 8:03am
| That's bitchen, congratulations ! |
Posted By: Pantera Mike
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2021 at 5:58pm
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Awesome! Can’t wait to hear your range report!
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Posted By: AndyC
Date Posted: 22 Feb 2021 at 8:39pm
25 yards, unsupported First shot:  Video of first shot: I could only get one shot off - I had a failure to extract (not a
problem with the pistol - I was holding lightly so I could get the most
accurate shot) and after clearing the fired case I couldn't get the damn
bolt open again. The recoil-springs are extremely strong and the cocking-piece is very slippery indeed. I had some .45 handloads with me, so I threw 20 downrange at 25 yards as well through my Talo Colt 1911:   ------------- http://bane.2hell.com" rel="nofollow - My Iraq Pics |
Posted By: AndyC
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2021 at 1:33am
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I have a few observations that I didn't post before now: 1. The pistol feels GOOD in the hand. The back of the grips are nicely rounded, so it's very comfortable indeed. 2. The recoil, even with full-power SBR ammo, is noticeably lighter than my 6.5" - at a guess, I'd say it's cut down by about 10%. 3. Accuracy - superb. Even though I only fired a single shot, it was thrilling to see the result. 4. Trigger - a slight touch of creep but I can't use my pull-gauge on it - because I can't check the chamber to make darn sure it's empty. ------------- http://bane.2hell.com" rel="nofollow - My Iraq Pics |
Posted By: Pantera Mike
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2021 at 4:38am
| You might consider sandblasting the cocking piece for a better grip? It would also contrast nicely with the polished finish of the rest of the gun.... |
Posted By: TankMan
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2021 at 6:18am
I thought about doing that with the new 8 1/2" upper I purchased from Patrick last year. I have a sandblast cabinet and I know I can mask off the rest of the upper to just hit the grip surfaces. Mine isn't so difficult to cock as the first iteration of upper I was sent due to Patrick upgrading my bolt and safety tappet to the latest type. I have yet to fire my upper.. Jerry |
Posted By: Pantera Mike
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2021 at 7:08am
The cocking piece comes right off when you field strip the gun. Just take it apart and blast it separately. Don’t put the whole upper in the cabinet!
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Posted By: John Nada
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2021 at 3:20pm
You were able to buy a new 8 1/2" upper last year??? AndyC, thanks for sharing the pics Gorgeous!
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Posted By: AndyC
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2021 at 5:35pm
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I called AM and spoke with Rob, and then Chris (production manager, I think). They made the points that yes, 1) the lockup is tight (for accuracy and longevity) and 2) springs are heavy (again longevity). Chris taught me an interesting technique - similar to your advice, Mike - where one places one's thumb through the trigger-guard and uses that to push the muzzle down onto a wood surface, then retract the bolt with the other hand. That can be done until the pistol has been broken-in through shooting, working the action, etc. They are working on a cocking-aid but that the manual method should be easy enough to do. I also mentioned a stiff thumb-safety and Rob said to pull the hammer back all the way and put the safety on (which works) - Chris said the thumb-safety won't break, it's just tight by design and to put on gloves and work it up and down while leaving the hammer in its normal cocked position. Good to go!
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Posted By: Luvz2Shoot
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2021 at 5:44pm
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For those of us that have paid for, and have been patiently waiting for one of these, I just received the email notification and phone call from Rob that mine is being shipped today. I should have it Thursday. It is not a myth. I really is true that these are being shipped. FE-40 ------------- If you were happy and you knew it, would you clap your hands? |
Posted By: AndyC
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2021 at 5:50pm
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Congrats!! ------------- http://bane.2hell.com" rel="nofollow - My Iraq Pics |
Posted By: TankMan
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2021 at 7:12pm
D'OH!! Red face. Red face. Well that was a senior moment it ever I had one! Not sure why I wrote that as in my mind I had cocking piece in mind... I'm sure if I'd tried to stuff the entire upper into my blast cabinet at some point the cocking piece would have fallen on the floor and THEN the error of my ways would have been readily apparent.... Sheese. At least I think I still remember which end the bullets come out.... Jerry |
Posted By: TankMan
Date Posted: 23 Feb 2021 at 7:13pm
Yep, wrote about here.. Jerry |
Posted By: AndyC
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2021 at 1:19am
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I found someone to video me: ------------- http://bane.2hell.com" rel="nofollow - My Iraq Pics |
Posted By: Pantera Mike
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2021 at 1:49am
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Looks great Andy! Interesting grip you have. Left thumb seems to be resting on the barrel latch with the right thumb on top. That’s how some people release it by accident and send their whole upper downrange! Personally, I grip the whole gun with my right hand, then wrap my left hand around it. That way my right thumb is well away from the barrel latch, and my right hand is firmly gripping the gun. That’s how I was trained to shoot in the Air Force. But I suspect your military service (and training) is far more noteworthy than mine in the shooting department!
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Posted By: AndyC
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2021 at 2:14am
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I need to work on that - I put my thumb up high as it was interfering with my trigger finger on this pistol; I normally do the typical "thumbs pointed forward, one on top of the other". Thanks for the heads-up re the barrel-latch - very good to know!
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Posted By: John Nada
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2021 at 10:55am
I missed that (just found your topic now: http://www.amtguns.info/santa-came-early-this-year_topic2605_page1.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.amtguns.info/santa-came-early-this-year_topic2605_page1.html ). I wasn't aware that was possible to get one already. Do you know if you're the only one to get this new upper or if they sold more?
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Posted By: WVWRZ500N
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2021 at 5:47pm
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[/QUOTE] I missed that (just found your topic now: http://www.amtguns.info/santa-came-early-this-year_topic2605_page1.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.amtguns.info/santa-came-early-this-year_topic2605_page1.html ). I wasn't aware that was possible to get one already. Do you know if you're the only one to get this new upper or if they sold more?
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I spoke with Patrick last week about new uppers. They are no longer selling just uppers. Attorneys stated too much liability with potentially improperly fitted parts. So all or nothing at this stage. Regards, Bill Wilson Lee's Summit, MO 816-377-3185
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Posted By: TRX302
Date Posted: 24 Feb 2021 at 10:46pm
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> sandblast For a non-permanent modification, try "grip tape" or "skateboard tape." It's basically glue-backed sandpaper. Cut a piece, start at the back end, and work it down the steps to the front, pressing it into each notch with an old credit card or similar object, so it forms to fit the cocking piece steps. Then trim the edges with a razor blade. If it's ever necessary to remove it, "Goo Gone" or acetone will dissolve the glue. Some 1911 guys use it on grips and slides. There are paint-on products that would be easier to apply, but they generally come packaged in sizes that would make them rather expensive for a onesie job. |
Posted By: John Nada
Date Posted: 25 Feb 2021 at 2:33am
That's a terrible news for me. I've been waiting for years to be able to get a long barrel for my Auto Mag, and I was really waiting to buy a new one. In France we only have the right to get 12 guns classified in B (means handguns or semi-auto rifles etc...) Of course I have reached the 12 gun limit already. But we have no limit on barrels or conversion uppers. |