Model 200 Bicentennial
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Topic: Model 200 Bicentennial
Posted By: yenko03
Subject: Model 200 Bicentennial
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2015 at 10:16pm
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I wanted to know if someone have pics of the Jurras 200 Bicentennial (LEJ02 I think) in magazine or other, I never see it Thanks Alex
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Posted By: BEEMER1
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2015 at 10:21pm
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Here is a link to the Jurras Brochure from Ian's site I think. It is in there. |
Posted By: yenko03
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2015 at 10:24pm
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Thanks for reply I know this brochure, but I'm looking for the engraved bicentennial model Alex
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Posted By: BEEMER1
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2015 at 10:33pm
| I am sorry, I skipped over the Bicentennial part. I am not familiar with that pistol. |
Posted By: yenko03
Date Posted: 27 Jan 2015 at 10:36pm
 EDIT: Oh yeah I have post one pics on the forum
  thanks Luc's tuto  |
Posted By: Ian
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2015 at 10:10am
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Is this the one? It was June in 2013 calendar (I will try to get a better image). Ian  ------------- http://www.amtguns.net" rel="nofollow - Ian's AMT Information Page http://www.glossover.co.uk" rel="nofollow - A little more about me - My corner of the internet |
Posted By: Ian
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2015 at 10:25am
This is a better scan from the 1977 Guns & Ammo annual, I will scan in the rest of the article at some point but this is the image I think you want.  Ian ------------- http://www.amtguns.net" rel="nofollow - Ian's AMT Information Page http://www.glossover.co.uk" rel="nofollow - A little more about me - My corner of the internet |
Posted By: yenko03
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2015 at 10:35am
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Wow thank you Ian
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Posted By: Luc V.
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2015 at 10:59am
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Nice one Alex! Is this the one you going to buy?
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Posted By: yenko03
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2015 at 11:04am
Yes Luc this is it  |
Posted By: Luc V.
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2015 at 11:19am
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Wow... Just WOW...
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Posted By: yenko03
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2015 at 11:20am
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I buy it with the sand that I have in my pocket haha
Cool to dream huh
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Posted By: Nitrous Viper
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2015 at 7:15pm
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That particular International (engraved) is owned by Bert Mason. Bert Bought the gun from Jurras collector Buddy Browder in 2006 for $50k. It is still in his collection and appeared on his site (Automag Heaven) some time back. I don't recall if it is in any of the chapters of his book. On another note, while we are talking about Internationals...LEJ #4 International is up for view on Automag World. There are more close up shots that some of you requested from the last Feature Gun posted (Alaskan) and of course a few models thrown in for those that appreciate that end also. Also....thank you Ian for all that you do!
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Posted By: yenko03
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2015 at 7:33pm
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Mark, no "view larger image gallery" for this model 200 ? Thank you for your website Mark
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Posted By: Nitrous Viper
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2015 at 7:45pm
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Thanks Yenko...I wanted to get it up since it had been a while from the previous posted guns and probably did not proof it adequately...my web designer has been informed to make the change. I promise to make an effort to rotate the site more and already have the article for the next feature gun Thanks again for your support. ------------- Don't BS the Forum |
Posted By: AUTOMAG
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2015 at 8:34pm
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Mark, thanks for that info!! I need to check out your site again. I also like your signature line.......Don't BS the forum!!! Good one Mark.
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Nitrous Viper wrote:Posted By: yenko03
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2015 at 10:18pm
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Mark thank you for the fast update I have one question : how do you do to remove the shoulder stock when is in the dovetail? little back and pull down? Sorry for my ignorance
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Posted By: Nitrous Viper
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2015 at 10:38pm
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"Mark, thanks for that info!! I need to check out your site again. I also like your signature line.......Don't BS the forum!!! Good one Mark." Thanks for the kind words John. We have now provided for the larger view images...hope you enjoy it ------------- Don't BS the Forum |
Posted By: Nitrous Viper
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2015 at 10:42pm
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Yenko, The dovetail has an integrated ball detent and require one to remove the magazine and push a small rigid tool against the detent which causes the detent to push in and disengage the dovetail from the slot and allow the shooter to slide the dove tail down and out of the bottom of the slot on the back rib of the gun ------------- Don't BS the Forum |
Posted By: yenko03
Date Posted: 28 Jan 2015 at 10:45pm
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, need an "exterior" tool to remove , ok Thanks Mark |
Posted By: Auto Mag
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2015 at 1:51pm
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Ok, I'll be the odd man on this one,,, First let me say I personally think the Auto Mag International is possibly the most beautiful gun ever made and running neck and neck at the top of my list next to the Colt SAA. Kudos to Lee Jurras for his vision, skills, and determination to even undertake the making of one of these guns, he is truly a unique and talented man! With that said, the Bicentennial International is just too much for me. The engraving is so overdone I just cannot appreciate it. Personally the International that Bruce Stark owns is the most attractive representation of the Internationals. It has just the right amount of features but with a classic and clean look. Its THE one to have, well for my taste. The amount of engraving on this gun is like an exercise in how much you can fit on a gun. It may be befitting of a gun heading to the museum of engraved stuff, but otherwise to my eye its gaudy, just way too much,,, Many Colt SAA's have also suffered this fate and as with those guns, I think the over the top engraving has hurt the value of the Bicentennial. Just look at the sales history of the super high coverage engraved SAA's and you will see why the value of the Bicentennial is not much higher than what it was originally sold for. There is such a thing as too much. In a way its a shame that it has not increased in value, with all the effort that went into that gun, and to see other Lomont and Jurras guns aledgely selling for $20k plus, one might reasonable assume that this gun would would be worth well over $100k. Unfortunately the very low visibility of the Auto Mag is still a factor and they just never end up in the hands of the big collectors. Just watch any of the big auction houses and what they are selling and you NEVER see Auto Mags as part of the big collections. You will find Lugers, Colts, Winchesters, crazy obscure guns and very common guns, but never Auto Mags. Seems like there are very few people interested in them and sadly the Bicentennial I feel suffers from the "too big/too much" and the fact that Auto Mags are just not of interest to the serious collectors. In a way we all benefit from this. If you follow the prices of the guns that the serious collectors buy, you will quickly see how working class folks like us would be priced out of the market very quickly if the big boys decided Auto Mags are the gun to have. So while I would not be shopping the Bicentennial the next time it comes up for sale, there may still be a few of you here who could afford it if you so desired. Now try to get your hands on a museum grade Winchester 1886 deluxe grade in say 50 - 110 or 140 or any of the desirable calibers, or a similar Colt, etc and good luck paying that bill,,, gh ------------- Who was that masked man,,, |
Posted By: Ian
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2015 at 2:25pm
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I must say that the engraved AutoMag I like the most is the WGC-3. http://www.amtguns.net/amt-information/galleries/wgc-3/" rel="nofollow - http://www.amtguns.net/amt-information/galleries/wgc-3/ I think it is just lovely and if I could afford it I would have it without a second thought. Ian ------------- http://www.amtguns.net" rel="nofollow - Ian's AMT Information Page http://www.glossover.co.uk" rel="nofollow - A little more about me - My corner of the internet |
Posted By: Auto Mag
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2015 at 2:41pm
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Again, I personally have never appreciated this particular gun, the design is just too personal with the dragons. The engraved Auto Mags in the Pasadena brochure are the ones I have always admired the most and even then I am torn between the one that is most covered and least covered. They are both very classy and classic in the execution of the engraving and could easily be in the Smithsonian as representatives of the most unique, most beautiful, most interesting guns of all time. They are masterpieces befitting of a place where all can enjoy them. Interestingly the most engraved gun from the Pasadena brochure and the "Dragon" gun have changed hands in the last many years and while the prices were not in a range I was willing to pay at that time, they were not unreasonable. I remember distinctly being offered one of the Pasadenas for $10k It was probably a mistake to pass it up, but then what on earth would I ever actually do with it? Well that was the same question that must have occurred to previous owners when they sold it,,, Interesting when you look back at what was available to you at any point in time and what your decision was. Sometime you make good decisions, sometimes not. ;-) gh ------------- Who was that masked man,,, |
Posted By: yenko03
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2015 at 3:14pm
| LEJ01 model 200 is perfect in my opinion, model 500 Grizzly and the 41JMP Silhouette are amazing too , bull barrel look so good |
Posted By: Auto Mag
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2015 at 5:49pm
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The 41 JMP Jurras gun you are talking about is yet another understated Auto Mag that just has that PERFECT look, Lee hit a home run with that one for sure. Now that I'm think about it, I need to see if I can talk Brian into making me one like it in 44 AMP. Are you listening Brian,,, HELLO!!! "Need Bbl,,," Damn, just when I thought I did not need any more Auto Mag stuff  gh
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Posted By: yenko03
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2015 at 6:34pm
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Yes I like the small vent rib on this bull barrel, the gun look like a big bad boy
S/N is so cool too Lee thank you for this masterpiece
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Posted By: Nitrous Viper
Date Posted: 29 Jan 2015 at 8:05pm
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"need an "exterior" tool to remove , ok" ------------- Don't BS the Forum |
Posted By: Nitrous Viper
Date Posted: 30 Jan 2015 at 4:59pm
Ian, Bert Owns the "Dragon Gun" also and has had it in his possession for the last 7 or 8 years. The "Dragon Gun" was engraved by Shiro Ogawa as were the engraved guns that every one is familiar with on the aristocrat brochure. Ogawa was based out of Tokyo and came to the states on contract work many times for manufactures, subcontractors and wealthy individuals. The factory guns were subcontracted to Bill Chizar for engraving but the work itself was actually performed by Ogawa. His style was perfected in Europe and differs from the work of the Italian engravers on the Jurras International #02. I plan to get into more of the engraved guns the next time "Automag World" turns over
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Posted By: Auto Mag
Date Posted: 02 Feb 2015 at 4:28am
Funny I was just thinking that just a while ago there was a frenzy of activity on the 41 JMP, a bunch of you were just hot to get out and give the 41 a run. So what was the outcome, are you guys still shooting it, do you like it any better than the 44 AMP or 357 AMP???? Its not a round I got much out of, it just seems like that round doesn't offer much. The 44 has big heavy bullets and the 357 is crazy fast, but the 41 just seem like it has no special purpose. I would really like to know if anyone found a real reason to shoot 41 JMP other then being unique? Maybe you have a better selection of bullets today than when it tried it ~20ish years ago??? gh ------------- Who was that masked man,,, |