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Hi Bob,

Not sure I understand your question, do you mean why wouldn't you want more than the 475 Wildey, 45 Win Mag, and the 357 Wildey/Peterbuilt barrels and all the others that they have listed/sold?

If that is your question I can only answer it as an Auto Mag owner, not a Wildey owner/shooter.

From my seat, I have now tried several calibers in the AM (as well as in other guns) and most of the time I have not found an advantage from having many different rounds for a single gun.  Most of the time I find (after the fact) that the new/additional round is just a novelty and does not offer a functional advantage. For example I have never understood the .40 caliber, I shoot 9mm 10mm 45ACP, but the 40 just has no appeal to me and no significant advantage for me to warrant my investment.  

Another example, I no longer have any 45 Win Mag barrels for Auto Mags and not in the market for any, I found no advantage. At the time I thought the availability of 45 Win Mag brass would be a big advantage, and then it was, but the round offered me no significant ballistic advantage, and once 44 AMP brass became more available I got rid of my 45 Win Mag barrels.  Additionally, 45 Win Mag brass did not fit well in some of the AM mags, and I found the round did not function well unless loaded really hot and with heavy bullets.

I have had similar experience with the 41 JMP, it was not easy to form properly and only after fire-forming did I get clean brass.  Bullets were limited, and I found it really didn't do much outside what I could get from the 357 AMP or 44 AMP.

The 475 Wildey round in the AM was interesting and clearly a step up, but almost too much. I was concerned about loading it to its maximum potential fearing it would break the gun and maybe the shooter ;-)   So again, I sold my 475 AM barrels as I just didn't get the functional advantage I was looking for and just having them to say so didn't do enough for me to hang on to them. 

So we are back to my question, why the hybrid 44 AM barrel on the Wildey, if its just because or for bragging rights OK, nothing wrong with that.  But is there some functional reason for this combo that I just don't know about???

Again just curious, I don't have any personal stake in the matter as I'm not a Wildey owner and not likely not going to be, they don't fit my hand well for the reasons you have stated.

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My first Wildey was a 44 AMP and I bought it to hunt whitetail with.

The 44AMP in the Wildey is a lot more comfortable to shoot then the 475.

I have  45 Wildey barrels and that is a good round, kinda  between the 44 and the 475.  I have 45 Win Mag barrels and I have never shot them even though I shoot it in a LAR Grizzly.  I think that I had the 44 barrel first and, like you said, where is the advantage.

All I can say is I am a 44 AMP fan and I want to shoot it in the Wildey's
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Thanks, just wondered if there was something specific I was missing.

How about their 357 Peterbuilt, have you ever shot that one???

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Originally posted by Auto Mag Auto Mag wrote:

Thanks, just wondered if there was something specific I was missing.

How about their 357 Peterbuilt, have you ever shot that one???

GH

I have never seen a 357 Peterbuilt Barrel.  There are no dies anywhere and Wildey Moore says it is not worth the trouble.

Peter H. who designed it is selling his guns off and I contacted the consignee and he said that he did not think there was one in his collection.

A long barreled 357 AMP would interest me more after looking into it and talking to Dave up at CH4D.
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Hi GH!

And thank you for the question. Beemer gave me some great in site as I am wanting a Wildey. I have experience with wildcat cartridges (mostly Weatherby's) and know it all adds up and in the end was I any better off or just more experience?

The adjustable gas system caught my eye and I feel the need to experience it so my question really came from could I get a Wildey in 44amp and not have to get into the .475 dies, powder, cases, trim pilot.... and you know the rest and experiment with the adjustable gas valve.. From Beemer the answer is most likely without a lot of hassle. If it is powder, COL and a some ink on the box that is doable. You on the other hand make a bit of sense also. I as well have 6 pistols in 9mm because its cheap fun and don't see the need to buy a .40.

So my thoughts are to get the .475, reconsider the 44AMP barrel at a later date and spend the money on tools. Beemer I would like to talk more about the dies. Yes i have the same Hornaday Roll Crimp 44AMP dies and yes i now have a set of RCBS 4pc TC. Much better! I suspect the Hornady Wildey dies are roll crimp also and not worth the 265 for me

Thanks, Tim

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Originally posted by BEEMER1 BEEMER1 wrote:

Originally posted by Auto Mag Auto Mag wrote:

Thanks, just wondered if there was something specific I was missing.

How about their 357 Peterbuilt, have you ever shot that one???

GH

I have never seen a 357 Peterbuilt Barrel.  There are no dies anywhere and Wildey Moore says it is not worth the trouble.

Peter H. who designed it is selling his guns off and I contacted the consignee and he said that he did not think there was one in his collection.

A long barreled 357 AMP would interest me more after looking into it and talking to Dave up at CH4D.


Bob,

Have you ever seen performance numbers on the Peterbuilt round?  Wondering how it stacked up against the 357 AMP, I thought the Peterbuilt had greater case capacity, but that was just hearsay, I have never seen actual specs.

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Originally posted by Flatlander Flatlander wrote:

Hi GH!

And thank you for the question. Beemer gave me some great in site as I am wanting a Wildey. I have experience with wildcat cartridges (mostly Weatherby's) and know it all adds up and in the end was I any better off or just more experience?

The adjustable gas system caught my eye and I feel the need to experience it so my question really came from could I get a Wildey in 44amp and not have to get into the .475 dies, powder, cases, trim pilot.... and you know the rest and experiment with the adjustable gas valve.. From Beemer the answer is most likely without a lot of hassle. If it is powder, COL and a some ink on the box that is doable. You on the other hand make a bit of sense also. I as well have 6 pistols in 9mm because its cheap fun and don't see the need to buy a .40.

So my thoughts are to get the .475, reconsider the 44AMP barrel at a later date and spend the money on tools. Beemer I would like to talk more about the dies. Yes i have the same Hornaday Roll Crimp 44AMP dies and yes i now have a set of RCBS 4pc TC. Much better! I suspect the Hornady Wildey dies are roll crimp also and not worth the 265 for me

Thanks, Tim



Hi Tim,

As you know playing with wildcat rounds is both fun and frustrating and time consuming AND EXPENSIVE!

Please do now change any of your plans based on my questions, I am not challenging you or your desires just trying to understand if there was a significant advantage of one round over another.

In the case of the 44 AMP vs 475 Wildey they are so different its almost hard to compare them.  The 475 is a BIG AND powerful round.  The 44 AMP is no slouch and easy to work with, but not in the same class as the 475 Wildey. Very different guns, very different rounds.

Best of luck whatever choice(s) you make.

Hope we can help if you have questions or at least be a place you can share your pictures, experiences and maybe laughs.

ATB

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Originally posted by Auto Mag Auto Mag wrote:

Originally posted by BEEMER1 BEEMER1 wrote:

Originally posted by Auto Mag Auto Mag wrote:

Thanks, just wondered if there was something specific I was missing.

How about their 357 Peterbuilt, have you ever shot that one???

GH

I have never seen a 357 Peterbuilt Barrel.  There are no dies anywhere and Wildey Moore says it is not worth the trouble.

Peter H. who designed it is selling his guns off and I contacted the consignee and he said that he did not think there was one in his collection.

A long barreled 357 AMP would interest me more after looking into it and talking to Dave up at CH4D.


Bob,

Have you ever seen performance numbers on the Peterbuilt round?  Wondering how it stacked up against the 357 AMP, I thought the Peterbuilt had greater case capacity, but that was just hearsay, I have never seen actual specs.

GH

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I have seen the specs on the 357 Wildey and they dwarf the 357 AMP.  The Wildey will never happen anyway so it is probably best.  The AMP is so easy but the Guy at USA Firearms just does not seem interested at all.  The owner's daughter runs the office and his son builds the guns.  They are all hepped up on building something in 45 acp.  I told Jessica that is the dumbest thing I have ever heard, look at the 357 AMP.  She said they have had several requests for it.
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45 ACP, that makes no sense, not unless its in a totally different and scaled down gun that just looks like a Wildey.

I cant imagine hauling that handcannon out to shoot 45 ACP,,,

Well at this point in my life I should not be surprised by anything.

The world is a wonderful and mysterious and sometime bazaar place.

Or as we civil servants say of our work in the government, you just cant make this stuff up!

Thanks for the laugh/or cry,,,

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So this is an old thread and was curious if anyone knew anything more as to what is going on with this USA guns and the Wildey? I know their phone is still working and is taking messages and their email is still alive and webpage also is still working but no contact. So anyone know anything about this?
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