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   I never drove a Pantera and don't know much about them. I just understood it was a powerful mid-eng model. Very interesting shape and concept. Haven't seen one in ages. The Jags were my first love in European sports cars. I test drove many. Remember how they took off when you released the clutch? And hit 90 in third? And the famous Jaguar whine? And that old leather spell? I'd recognize it anywhere even today. 

People talked me out of buying one. They said it's a great car for someone who likes to walk a lot. That was the 6 cyl version. Later on I test drove a beautiful blue V12 XKE and would have bought it, except when you rounded a corner and hit the gas the engine always folded. The problem supposedly was the polution control stuff of the early 70s. Then they ruined the looks of them with adding all that black rubber bumper material.

I wound up with an MGB which I drove the wheels off.

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Ginsaw Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Callahan's Auto Mag Joined: 09 Mar 2008 Location: TN Status: Offline Points: 460	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ginsaw Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Mar 2008 at 10:36pm
	I never drove a Pantera and don't know much about them. I just understood it was a powerful mid-eng model. Very interesting shape and concept. Haven't seen one in ages. The Jags were my first love in European sports cars. I test drove many. Remember how they took off when you released the clutch? And hit 90 in third? And the famous Jaguar whine? And that old leather spell? I'd recognize it anywhere even today. People talked me out of buying one. They said it's a great car for someone who likes to walk a lot. That was the 6 cyl version. Later on I test drove a beautiful blue V12 XKE and would have bought it, except when you rounded a corner and hit the gas the engine always folded. The problem supposedly was the polution control stuff of the early 70s. Then they ruined the looks of them with adding all that black rubber bumper material. I wound up with an MGB which I drove the wheels off.

Gerry Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List R.I.P. Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Location: MI Status: Offline Points: 1085	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gerry Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 21 Mar 2008 at 11:44pm
	Nobody won it, so you have time to file for taxes or remortgage the house. I will buy an extra Lotta ticket just in case! Gerry

curmudgeon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List R.I.P. Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Location: hagerman,NM Status: Offline Points: 747	Post Options Post Reply Quote curmudgeon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Mar 2008 at 3:08am
	Ginsaw, it was powered by the 351 Cleveland engine..

Ginsaw Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Callahan's Auto Mag Joined: 09 Mar 2008 Location: TN Status: Offline Points: 460	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ginsaw Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Mar 2008 at 7:30pm
	Curmudgeon, the Pantera was one of those that just looked fast even standing still. Here's a couple web-sites on it you might enjoy. These should bring back some memories (I've never tried to copy site links before into a message, so we'll see if it works) - http://www.dochemp.com/9panter.html http://www.panteraplace.com/page35.htm They say it was a 5.8 litre mill. I take it that was the 351 c.i. - I never quite got used to expressing eng sizes in metric. Sometimes I think if money were no object and I was looking for another hobby, restoring old muscle cars could be tempting.

AUTOMAG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Callahan's Auto Mag Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Location: Virginia Beach Status: Offline Points: 1046	Post Options Post Reply Quote AUTOMAG Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Mar 2008 at 8:09pm
	Restoring old muscle cars, a more expensive hobby than collecting Auto Mag items!!!! I can vouch for that having restored a 1969 Camaro Z/28 with the RS package. Every piece that you tear down either needs to be replaced or at least a part in the group!!!! Never should have sold it or my LS6 Chevelle that I had. Oh well, so much for that!!!
	"This is the 44 Magnum Auto Mag and holds a 300 grain cartridge and if properly used it can remove the fingerprints"!!!

AUTOMAG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Callahan's Auto Mag Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Location: Virginia Beach Status: Offline Points: 1046	Post Options Post Reply Quote AUTOMAG Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 22 Mar 2008 at 8:51pm
	The International is back on Gun Broker with a buy it now of $23,000.00!!!!
	"This is the 44 Magnum Auto Mag and holds a 300 grain cartridge and if properly used it can remove the fingerprints"!!!

curmudgeon Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List R.I.P. Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Location: hagerman,NM Status: Offline Points: 747	Post Options Post Reply Quote curmudgeon Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Mar 2008 at 8:23pm
	23K seems in pace with the rest of the AM stuff. There will always be AM items out there to test ones fancy or resolve, whichever suits the mood. Yes Auto restoration can make AM's pale by comparison...Just watch some of the Auto auctions... :-)

Gerry Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List R.I.P. Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Location: MI Status: Offline Points: 1085	Post Options Post Reply Quote Gerry Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 23 Mar 2008 at 9:33pm
	If you guys want to see a parade of Motown steel, come up in August when the have the Woodward Dream Cruise. This event last a long weekend and is very cool. Gerry

Ginsaw Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Callahan's Auto Mag Joined: 09 Mar 2008 Location: TN Status: Offline Points: 460	Post Options Post Reply Quote Ginsaw Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Mar 2008 at 4:02am
	As long as we're on cars, if you guys could have one of anything, what would it be? I mean a fun car, not something practical - like an SUV for hunting etc. I don't see myself driving a real small XKE anymore, but I wouldn't mind a restored '64 GTO. I was serfing the net and found on YouTube that old Ronny & The Daytonas "Little GTO" - "three dueces and a four speed and a 389". After all these years, it still gets the blood pumping...

AUTOMAG Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Callahan's Auto Mag Joined: 08 Mar 2008 Location: Virginia Beach Status: Offline Points: 1046	Post Options Post Reply Quote AUTOMAG Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 24 Mar 2008 at 3:43pm
	My dream car, a 1969 Yenko Camaro!!!!!!!!
	"This is the 44 Magnum Auto Mag and holds a 300 grain cartridge and if properly used it can remove the fingerprints"!!!