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    Posted: 23 Sep 2019 at 7:35pm
I believe your ideas would be better served with an expanded FAQ or Information sub-page to this forum. Indexed by type with supporting documentation and video links as appropriate. Take a look at how some of the auto-enthusiast websites do it. They will have eith highest level portal type formats as you do with immediate divisions by sub model and even production year(s) divisions below that.
Common areas for resources, suppliers and the like can be at the highest level as you have. Basically looking at the subject as an abstract concept and information that applies to all subjects can be at the highest level with specialty information like assembly at the lowest. Including video links.

No need for a YouTube channel, just links to tie it altogether. And YouTube's policies for firearms might become fluid.

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I could throw something together on the Automag model line. I'll post when I have something to be reviewed because I might have left something out. Always good to have more eyes for comments and such.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Ian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Sep 2019 at 11:24am
Some interesting ideas, the only one I would shy away from is the pay part, just because I think that this information and participation should be free.

I like the youtube channel idea with a branding on each video we post up and will see if I can get the channel name.

Quite happy to do some work on the site to get it a little more like a website with a forum rather than just a forum.

What things would we like to see on the forum site, any ideas would be welcome?

But we would need the videos to put up on the YouTube channel.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote XP001 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Sep 2019 at 5:20am
My problem would be paying for a site. The first issue is how to pay and the fraud issues that it brings, unless it's strictly send "checks/money orders". Then you have the people you lose because they only come to gather and chat and make a few comments. Then some figure it's not worth the price to get a few questions answered so they skip over the site and go to youtube or whatever. Some here provide GREAT insight and help through videos, pics and such so now are you going to ask them to stay/pay and help, I personally love the passion here and have helped enough to feel what space server I used is put to good use. Force paying/subscribe I don't think is the answer, ask for donations via check/money order I think is the nicer way to go as some will throw in what they can and some won't, it's a choice than. 

I not sure how much cost are incurred in running a site and doing the upgrades/maintenance, maybe if Ian wants to share that along with asking for donations or just ask for donation or just whatever it's his choice. My other worry and his may be still in the back of his head is that "UK issue" of being a bad influence and being outlaw/banned. Moving the site to your house Luvz?

There is so much info on this site and only a few ever visit or even know to visit them other parts! Tons of pics and info of history here. I spent hours just looking and never really read everything yet. You bet I copied some of it as you never know when the gov comes knocking to shut it down.

I have also sent long videos via cloud as sending it here never seems to work for me, probably something I'm doing or my net provider issue.

Also "Server space is cheap it's the bandwidth that gets ya" as I was told, maybe Ian could explain this better to us. That is another benefit to using Youtube but again not sure about all the details that can "gotcha" doing it there either.

So Ian this thread has drifted around a LOT, how about some guidance?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Luvz2Shoot Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Sep 2019 at 11:39pm
All very valid.  The only issue I see are picts and videos take up a lot more server space.

I'm willing to send money annually "to subscribe" to this site if needed to help offset the increased costs, if there are any.  
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote XP001 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Sep 2019 at 8:04pm
As for a thread referring to "others youtube" video, well you just pushed them off this site to go to YouTube and maybe never to see them again. I also think they might have thought a dedicated site would get better info then YouTube so they came here, and then we push them back off to go to YouTube?
Another thing, some would have done the YouTube thing and didn't like or find what was needed.
Well them are my thoughts.
Let's us know when you decide what way you are going. You could do both if you wanted to. Cover your bases with an opening, YouTube it and then you could also setup a link page here to it.
Solves the video question BUT then would we need need a more issue/detail about them models? 
Well, time for Ian to answer some questions. 
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Great point on the thread being moved! Yeah, just would need to cut/paste important parts of that model.
If we start with a clean slate and get a area just for  info on that model set up, then over time it will fill up as needed. The area should not be use for the complete thread as DRIFT always happen as we know. Just more of a cut/paste post of important facts. 
As for the credits, more of a thing of stating where they can find more info, IF it was a YouTube thing. More of a "branding" of where the info came from and where there is more to be found. I didn't want to get who owns the video and such, just to refer where it came from so they can get more info.
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Originally posted by XP001 XP001 wrote:

Dig into the YouTube if you want as I said there might be benefits to it and also like other comment posted it might pay you BUT not sure on what requirement is needed to get that.
Videos should have a nice opening scene that put this site Info to help guide them here for the forum and such. Maybe with an ad like talk about what else is on here, like the history of the Auto Mag and the AMT line up as well as the following always willing to discuss any issue not discussed in this video.
If you tube is not the right way for this site, then I think making it easier to find videos and info by model would also get some here. I found the search isn't the easiest to work here but maybe that's just my issue.

Is there an easy way to sort the general forum posts into groups of models being discussed by using their title names or such?

I'm sure others couldn't find the answer needed through the search engine and  gave up and others too lazy so both just posted the question "again" because it was faster and easier than sorting through the general site.
There are some here that have great info. and what ever way you go will help.
As for videos, it may be nice once a video is made to pass it to a few that want to advise on this project to make sure it is complete and covers all the issues known so it's the best out there. 
If you make a channel here just for videos it would also make finding them easy to use and refer to with a note to refer to the forum side as well.

It all depends on where you want to go with this and how much effort is needed to do it.

Let us know, we can help if you need it just ask.


Unfortunately a lot of the forum posts "drift" a little - as with most other forum threads.  For example, there is a thread about "The New Auto Mag Part 2".  On page 31 it drifts slightly to discussing the Desert Eagle rounds.  (Which I am hoping to read about and follow in the future).

As with most forums (not just this one), right now there is a lot of info regarding a lot of things in multiple threads.  Sometimes a lot of information regarding a lot of things in 1 thread.  Going through every single thread and "copy and pasting" into specific threads would be nightmare.  If this forum is set up into specific folders/threads, as we (the forum members) search for something specific, if we run across something maybe we can "copy/paste" into the more specific thread? (I hope that makes sense)

If a video was made, and this forum "credits" were at the beginning, would that imply that it might be copyrighted by this forum?  Just curious.

I agree, if we can help in any way, just ask.  You've laid the foundation many years ago, and this really could end up a library of information regarding the Auto Mag and AMT's, and the various models throughout each lineup.
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Dig into the YouTube if you want as I said there might be benefits to it and also like other comment posted it might pay you BUT not sure on what requirement is needed to get that.
Videos should have a nice opening scene that put this site Info to help guide them here for the forum and such. Maybe with an ad like talk about what else is on here, like the history of the Auto Mag and the AMT line up as well as the following always willing to discuss any issue not discussed in this video.
If you tube is not the right way for this site, then I think making it easier to find videos and info by model would also get some here. I found the search isn't the easiest to work here but maybe that's just my issue.
Is there an easy way to sort the general forum posts into groups of models being discussed by using their title names or such?
I'm sure others couldn't find the answer needed through the search engine and  gave up and others too lazy so both just posted the question "again" because it was faster and easier than sorting through the general site.
There are some here that have great info. and what ever way you go will help.
As for videos, it may be nice once a video is made to pass it to a few that want to advise on this project to make sure it is complete and covers all the issues known so it's the best out there. 
If you make a channel here just for videos it would also make finding them easy to use and refer to with a note to refer to the forum side as well.

It all depends on where you want to go with this and how much effort is needed to do it.

Let us know, we can help if you need it just ask.
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Ian,

I know we've all talked to folks about different models, builds, etc.  IE: Tony getting his AMT-II and and AMT-III "tuned" to run; Paul and his detailed photos of the different builds (slides/frames) with the AMT-IV (I think it was the IV); Bruce sharing his knowledge, folks posting links to vid's, etc.

There is SO MUCH on this site about the Auto Mag from long time members (Bruce Stark, Lee Jurras, Brian Maynard, Tony Rumore, XP001, and ALL the others over the years) that have extensive knowledge that they were so kind to share.  And that they are still willing to share.

What would the possibility be to make the "front page" of your site similar to your other site?  Having folders/links to the various makes and models?  That way folks could easily navigate to a specific model that they may be interested in, and sharing any/all info. they may have.  Instead of "lumping" (for lack of a better term/word) into 1 general forum.

As for posting on YouTube, I believe there is something like a "registered member" where when people click on your video and watch it, and "like" it, you actually get paid $$$.  It may not be a lot of money, but any little bit would help costs for this site that you have graciously provided over the years for us, for free.  I understand that we all want to share, and generate more participation for knowledge and sharing, but if you "freely" give it, people might not tend to want to join and participate, and just take whatever they can.

Just another thought.
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