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If you follow FaceBook, their page posted both videos.  In FB, search Auto Mag Ltd
A newer page. 
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By the way, did anyone happen to see the. 45 ACP Hardballer AutoMag on GunBroker? He only wants $30K for it.
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Originally posted by 45 Year Wait 45 Year Wait wrote:

By the way, did anyone happen to see the. 45 ACP Hardballer AutoMag on GunBroker? He only wants $30K for it.

That pistol is a one of kind piece of Auto Mag history.

A few years ago it would not have lasted 5 minutes at that price.  I wish Bruce well on it.
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Watching Auto Mag sales over the years is a study in the bazaar.

Several years ago and very loosely timed to the deaths of key figures like Harry Sanford, Kent Lomont, Lee Jurras, the most unique of the Auto Mags were seeing record setting sale prices.  Even production Auto Mag prices were starting to see a modest increase in value for the first time in years.

But just as quickly as the interest and prices went up, we are now seeing a strange sudden decline in the interest in these most unique Auto Mags, and for no clear reason. It started well before the pandemic and while the economy was at its highest level in history and growing.

Not sure if the market became saturated and the collectors have what they want, or if they have shifted their interest to other things.

You cannot rule out the impact the new Auto Mag company has also had. Some collectors may be waiting to see what happens with new production and hoping to get early models with low or special serial numbers and/or any special or custom models that may become available in the future.

In the end, if you are trying to predict when Auto Mag values and popularity with collectors will be high or low, all I can say is good luck.  Never have I seen such an unpredictable and inconsistent history of firearms values and popularity as the Auto Mag.

This site serves as a barometer of Auto Mag interest overall.  People come here and proclaim their total loyalty and life long interest in Auto Mags, and too often they are gone in 2 - 3 years or maybe less,,, Then there are the people who only have their single Auto Mag and are not shopping for any more but are actually totally devoted to following Auto Mags and have been involved for decades.

Auto Mag are and continue to be fascinating.

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Originally posted by Auto Mag Auto Mag wrote:

Watching Auto Mag sales over the years is a study in the bazaar.

Several years ago and very loosely timed to the deaths of key figures like Harry Sanford, Kent Lomont, Lee Jurras, the most unique of the Auto Mags were seeing record setting sale prices.  Even production Auto Mag prices were starting to see a modest increase in value for the first time in years.

But just as quickly as the interest and prices went up, we are now seeing a strange sudden decline in the interest in these most unique Auto Mags, and for no clear reason. It started well before the pandemic and while the economy was at its highest level in history and growing.

Not sure if the market became saturated and the collectors have what they want, or if they have shifted their interest to other things.

You cannot rule out the impact the new Auto Mag company has also had. Some collectors may be waiting to see what happens with new production and hoping to get early models with low or special serial numbers and/or any special or custom models that may become available in the future.

In the end, if you are trying to predict when Auto Mag values and popularity with collectors will be high or low, all I can say is good luck.  Never have I seen such an unpredictable and inconsistent history of firearms values and popularity as the Auto Mag.

This site serves as a barometer of Auto Mag interest overall.  People come here and proclaim their total loyalty and life long interest in Auto Mags, and too often they are gone in 2 - 3 years or maybe less,,, Then there are the people who only have their single Auto Mag and are not shopping for any more but are actually totally devoted to following Auto Mags and have been involved for decades.

Auto Mag are and continue to be fascinating.

GH

Or you could be like me and had your start around Automags.

How my honest enjoyment of these pieces came about at a gun show in Rapid City SD in late 1974 when Automag had a factory display going around to the different shows.  If i had known about them in much more detail at the time it would have been nice to have had a conversation with Harry.  Back to the show, I had only been around rimfire stuff at the time except for Air Force qualifying so the Automag was quite a beast.  The guy I was with, Greg Thompson, got one for $500.  My first centerfire was a Super Blackhawk that someone was shooting first time we were out with the Automag, got it for $100.  Later on we had another guy move in to the area who had another Automag so was able to shoot 2 at once.  When I got reassigned in early 1977 I went without an Automag till I had my chance to get one in 1991.

There are a lot of things that really make it easier to go after the Automag, mostly reloading, cause unless you are just collecting they are real expensive to shoot.  You also have to be a bit of a tinkerer.  If I am correct in my thinking that is one of the reasons the new company is taking a while to get them out, trying to make it so that you don't have to be a tinkerer.

I am not much of a collector but really like the shooting thing so after the original collectors of original issue new Automags are satisfied will probably pick up a shooter and let mine have a bit of a rest for a while.

There are those hard core Automag folks like me but sadly you are correct there are some to whom it is the "flavor of the month".  More is the pity.
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Not too dissimilar for me. Not really a collector, not an expert in anything, not wealthy, just a guy that likes Auto Mags since a Long Long Time Ago, in a Place Far, Far Away,,,

Floride in the 1970's ;-)

As a kid I saw the Guns and Ammo issue with the Auto Mag Story and its split page centerfold of a shooting bench full of Auto Mags, then I saw an odd long bull barreled Auto Mag in a display case next to a GIANT stuffed bear in a sporting goods store in Florida that mostly sold fishing gear.  The story was told that it was the owners gun and he took it as a back up gun in the bear hunt, but the beat was actually taken with a 7mm Mag.  Did I say the bear was HUGE.

Then I started seeing Lee Jurras stories in magazines and he was just larger than life guy and saying all these amazing things about Auto Mags and there was no way I wasn't going to buy one some day.

By 1980, I was ready, went to the local gun shop and told them I wanted one, and boy did I get an ear full of why I didn't want an Auto Mag and they wouldn't even sell it to me. 

It would be a couple more years before I finally got my first one, and clearly I was clueless about Auto Mags as I didn't even realize it was broken!  I tried for months to get it to cycle before figuring out it was broken.

Fortunately it didn't stop me, and ~35 years later I am still thrilled to look at and and handle and shoot Auto Mags.

Well thats my story, not exciting, not dramatic, not inspiring, just the truth.

Met some great people along the way, and learned a lot. Still have fun and still hoping for that last one or two or three special Auto Mags I think I want. Maybe Ill get lucky, but if not no complaints here, just thankful.

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I grew up in South Africa and first read about AutoMags via the Mack Bolan books my dad would bring back from the US on business trips (along with reloading equipment). A few years later as a teen I saw the first decent photos in a US gun-magazine and have wanted one ever since - I got on the list for a Founders a couple years ago (and finally purchased a TDE via a member here while waiting).

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Nothing wrong with a good TDE, thats what I have mostly use for my shooter/test guns over the years.

Now if you want a really cool addition to your collection, hunt up a Baby AutoMag. .22 LR has finally come back down to reasonable prices and you can shoot it all day without suffering sore wrist, elbow, shoulder. I'm starting to wonder if I have some nerve or joint damage or something else from shooting so many high power handgun rounds over the years and regaining my appreciation for .22 LR and .22 Mag.

But dont worry, I havent given my kids my full size Auto Mags just yet, still got a few more years left in me (I hope) ;-)

Enjoy

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Originally posted by Auto Mag Auto Mag wrote:

Nothing wrong with a good TDE, thats what I have mostly use for my shooter/test guns over the years.

Now if you want a really cool addition to your collection, hunt up a Baby AutoMag. .22 LR has finally come back down to reasonable prices and you can shoot it all day without suffering sore wrist, elbow, shoulder. I'm starting to wonder if I have some nerve or joint damage or something else from shooting so many high power handgun rounds over the years and regaining my appreciation for .22 LR and .22 Mag.

But dont worry, I havent given my kids my full size Auto Mags just yet, still got a few more years left in me (I hope) ;-)

Enjoy

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Guess I am in the odd category here.  64 and still not affected by handgun recoil.  Rifle recoil is getting a bit more noticeable, my 460 Number 1 is not as easy to shoot with full loads as it used to be (500GR at 2150 FPS).  I guess being a technician/mechanic helps, got that Popeye forearm thing going pretty well, not to mention 6'7" and 245.  The Automag is not as big a recoil situation as it used to be with the advent of the big revolvers, got a 460 S&W, and 50 AE Eagles, not to mention my 444 T/C Contender.  Now shooting the AM still wakes you up but does not seem as hard on the wrist as it used to be.  Looking forward to being able to let rip with a full mag of either 44 or 357 as my gun still has issues with reliability on the first 2 out of the mag (might improve with that mag I got from Patrick's stash), five in the mag it works great in either 44 or 357 unless you limp wrist it like my son tries at first, you would think he would remember as long as he has been shooting it with me.  Still impressed with the shooting videos from Patrick just letting it rip with multiple full mags.  Get the backlog cleared and sign me up for a new one with a pair of 8 1/2 barrels in 44 and 357, hope I am not dreaming.
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For me the wear and tear concern is most likely from volume of shooting not so much the round. I almost never take less than 200 rounds in each caliber to the range with me when I go.

So it could be 200 rounds of 9mm, + 200 rounds of 44AMP, + 200 rounds of 45 ACP.

And it could be more, but rarely less. And the handgun calibers might change from .22LR/Mag, .380, 9mm, 10mm, 41AE, 45ACP, 45LC, 357AMP, 44AMP. Well at the moment, it changes every few years,,,
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