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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pantera Mike Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Oct 2018 at 6:08am
You can order the Classic Edition with either 6.5 or 8.5-inch barrels, and either plastic or wood grips. 

The only difference between a FE and a CE with 8.5 inch barrel is the serial number, I believe. 

I also believe that those who stepped up and placed their FE orders early paid less than if you ordered a similar CE today.  True?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AndyC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Oct 2018 at 5:14pm
$3,495 for the 6.5" Classic Edition originally (now $3,795) - $3,995 for the 8.5" Founders' Edition. Looks like the Classic is now available in 6.5" and 8.5" - cool.

I have a Founders' Edition ordered and paid-for, but I paid full price - I don't know if anyone paid less than that; if they managed to get a better price, good for them.

Those of us who paid up-front were recently given a $300 credit towards items from the AM store - mine'll likely be going towards a spare 6.5" upper.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Capn27 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Oct 2018 at 11:49pm
Don't forget the high polish finish on the FE. That's the main reason I changed my order from the CE to the FE when one became available.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AndyC Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2018 at 2:36pm
New email from Patrick this morning:

For those that have ordered a pistol, we hear you:

When will my Auto Mag be shipped?

There are two remaining hurdles to complete before we can enter a true production mode. One is the new magazine and the other is finished frames. If I could guess I would think we will be in full production in the next 30 to 45 days.

Some good news: We will ship about ten (10) more pistols that should be finished in the next week or so.

On the first hurdle, we received our first batch of new magazine bodies in this week and already have found problems with the welds and the feed lips. We sent back samples of what needed improvement and should know next week how long it will take to get these new issues straightened out. 

The second hurdle was once thought to be solved as we had 590 original frame castings and even though we knew that many had problems with warping and porosity, we thought we would get at least 50 or 100 good frames but we are having an extremely high failure rate. We will get a small number of frames that will allow us to ship a few more until we get new frame castings. The good news here is that we have started the process of making the new frames and the first pour will be done this Friday. It will take a week to get frames to our machine shop to do the finished milling. If everything is right on the first batch of 20, they will immediately make and increase the next batch to 300 units.

But we have rarely had any part work the first time. I am always optimistic but time after time when I believe that things will work on the first try I end up with egg on my face. We will get there and every week we get closer. Every problem teaches us something new that usually makes the final product better than it would have otherwise been.

Currently we only have 91 left on order. We have 45 complete uppers (41 of the 8-1/2" and 4 of the 6-1/2"). We now have the capacity to produce between 200 to 300 pistols per month and in addition to the complete uppers we also have over 200 of every part needed, except the magazines, frames and finished barrels (we have 217 finished rifled barrel blanks that are just being started on and will be complete in the next month).

I have attached some photos of our progress. The green frames are the wax masters and the tan are the casting shells.


Frame mold for wax masters


Wax masters


Frame wax masters on a tree


After first slurry dip (it takes 8 dips)


After the third dip (it takes 8 dips to form the shell)

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We have recently launched a YouTube Channel and would love for you all to have more in-depth access to videos and updates on everything we are doing. Feel free to subscribe to get the latest content. Link: The Auto Mag Channel

Respectfully,

Patrick Henry III

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CrazyLarry Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Oct 2018 at 6:16pm
Excellent

I prefer to see updates like this.

Nervous about the mags, but, I want to see my pistol in time for some fire forming and range work before Santa comes.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TankMan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2018 at 2:16am
I received the same email.

I'm curious about the ceramic shell investment casting  molding process they are using. It's a great process for close tolerances and surface finish. I wonder since the parts ( frames) being relatively thin if they are using some sort of vacuum or pressure assistance. I regularly do sand casting as part of my other hobbies and very superficially have touched vacuum assisted lost wax casting. Lots of work in preparation and ticklish to execute. Seeing what they are doing and how they are doing it gives me added appreciation for their trials...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote CrazyLarry Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Nov 2018 at 4:23am
Jerry,

I have not heard of that thick of a casting shell that didn't involve some sort of "assistance".

I know Ruger does this, to a certain extent with some of their parts. Its not 100% the same, though.

When I worked in the auto industry, some of the suppliers for Nissan used/use a reverse "pour" and the cavity is held upside down and that way they avoid any form of air pockets. The "vacuum" is actually pressure forcing out the air from a difference in elevation. (no Hoover vac required)

But, one method for one type of material and part size/shape is not going to translate well to another.

I would be curious to know what method is actually used, though... my nerd gene is showing.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote TankMan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 15 Nov 2018 at 8:41pm
Since we're halfway to December and I recall hearing that the FE pistols would maybe possibly be sorta delivered before January... did anyone get theirs yet?

Jerry( the Patient )


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Newp - waiting in hope :)
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I sent an email to Patrick today seeing if he has firmed up the timeline but I have not heard back.
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