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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote BEEMER1 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 23 Dec 2019 at 4:13pm
Originally posted by TankMan TankMan wrote:

I believe the real question would be: how many of the guys that pre-paid for their FE pistols have received them? If few or none how could the company jump ahead to have regular non FE 8 1/2" stock pistols 'in stock'??

Jerry

The way I read it is that there are no guns in stock.

What is in stock is the ability to pre-order a gun for future delivery after the current orders are filled.  No one is jumping ahead of the current unfilled orders.
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The ability to take an order is now "in stock", but, the delivery times are not discussed.

Rather curious. How is this different than before? Embarrassed

Some form of disclaimer should be provided.
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Originally posted by CrazyLarry CrazyLarry wrote:

The ability to take an order is now "in stock", but, the delivery times are not discussed.

Rather curious. How is this different than before? Embarrassed

Some form of disclaimer should be provided.

That "in stock"  has been on their website for a long time.

I would imagine that delivery is discussed when you put down your payment.
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Originally posted by BEEMER1 BEEMER1 wrote:


I would imagine that delivery is discussed when you put down your payment.


It was when I'd paid for my FE. Of course it was revised more times than I'm able to
recall up until I wanted to use my dough to take advantage of another opportunity and received a refund.  I recall I put my order in early October 2017 and requested my refund at the end of 2018.
If the gun had been delivered after 6 months or a year I'd most likely not have cancelled the order...

I hope to revisit this process when regular production is available.

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I imagine most of the first buyers paid well over 2 years ago. Oh well, the wait continues...
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Originally posted by AndyC AndyC wrote:

I imagine most of the first buyers paid well over 2 years ago. Oh well, the wait continues...

Delivery was to be expected in approximately 90 days which is 2 years ago right now.  

Oh well.    Confused
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I understand why they want to make it their own with a host of improvements, but in all honesty the business plan behind this is non existent and it just keeps evolving and evolving and evolving,,,

I think they would have been so much better off if they started just making parts, then barrels/top-ends, then keep Larry G on the team and make 100% classic guns, then attempt an "improved" version.

They have gone down the hardest path and made repeated "projections" and failed to meet every one.

I do not assign any malice or anything except a goal that was probably bigger then they ever dreamed of, but the result is the result and even when they do get product out, too many will feel burned,,,

In truth they have accomplished so much more then anyone before them but for Harry Sanford, and we now understand things about the gun we never knew before, but is this enough to actually turn out a viable product that sells in quantity.  Only time will tell.

I still wish them well and hope it all works out, but it must be crazy stressful for them, and it has clearly been very irritating for potential customers.

Another interesting page in Auto Mag history,,,

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GH
Who was that masked man,,,
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I wish the team well and a productive and successful 2020.

That said, I just could not have them hold onto my $$$ another year without delivery or compensation. That was my choice, others have different expectations.

I don't have any I'll will towards the team or those who are still in it.

But, as others gave stated, the timelines continued to slip well past original projections/estimates. That was out of my control.

It all comes down to patience and faith with Patrick. I ran out of both after 18 months.
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Well it been an interesting almost 5 years.

We have seen a new vision for a re-imagined Auto Mag (AutoMax) and after prototypes were produced and tested the vision was pretty much abandoned and replaced with a new plan to produce a very limited run of mostly classic design Founders edition guns.

Now we have another vision of a hybrid blend of classic design with engineering and quality improvements.

We have seen testing that has enlightened us.

We have seen designs that never made sense and didn't work.

We are seeing the promise of potential improvements.

We have seen the loss from the project of the most knowledgeable and experienced and legitimate Auto Mag expert (Larry Grossman)

And we have seen a clear and unquestionable dedication to the project (I cannot even imagine the sunk costs to date)

I continue to have my thoughts and perspective on this matter, and at the same time I continue to look forward to seeing what comes next.

Happy New Year

GH


Who was that masked man,,,
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Seems to be some updates to their FaceBook page. Not much has happened here until recently.   https://m.facebook.com/AutoMagLtd/
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