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Originally posted by Luc V. Luc V. wrote:

Well here we go agian, that’s just another example of a very well and interesting topic going down…

What’s the problem with some of you people, is it so hard to stay on topic? Do you have to bring it down after a couple of pages? Do you really need a referee?

It actually isn’t important where you got interested in the AMT guns or Automag’s, it was fun to read how some of you got bitten by the bug… It can be a comic book, a gunmagazine, a gundealer, a movie, videogame, or even a drawing on a toiletwall…

The point is you got here to find out more about those guns and I hope you learned some things about them. THAT IS WHY THIS FORUM IS STILL ON HERE!!! It is not a game and you dont need to choose sides, you supposed to be adults. You dont have to like other members, if you don’t like the posts or words simply ignore them will do fine.

A note on language: We have American’s English, French, Swiss, Belgians and more on bord, so you can even write in some of those languages, I will try to understand them.

It does not matter if you can’t write perfect american, my english is not perfect eighter (it’s not a google translation btw), but I guess you all understand what my words mean. I’m do my best but If you dont understand them you can always ask me to be more specific, I dont mind. The same goes for other members.

What we dont need here is some sort of psychiatrists trying to decompose our personality…  If for some reason this should be the case, I reccomend to get professional help, not surfing the “other forums” or the interwebs….

Second note on multiple accounts: Some of you feel the need to have more accounts (login). Trust me,  We really know whom and where you are and can prove it. You may use a so called secure internetconnection with random IP’s but that is just an illusion and waste of money…

 

I truly hope we can get back on topic and read the interesting stories on how other members got involved in the Automag or AMT guns. That may be pistols, rifles, magazines, toys or even comicbooks 😉

Luc V. 




Well said, Luc!  Your English is just fine and being read loud and clear.  Clap
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Travis, does this mean that you ran out and bought a sword, skull shoulder protector (with attaching chain) and a winged helmet???  And don't forget the feathered-skull junk protector too....

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Originally posted by Travis Morgan Travis Morgan wrote:

Well, I was going to go into detail on how when I was a kid, found the "Warlord" series of comic books, and how the main character 'Travis Morgan' always was packing an AutoMag. 

... Now I'm afraid of what judgment will be passed upon me; being at an even lower level (comic books) then those who read Mack Bolan novels! 




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@Luvz2Shoot  Lol LOL  - As a kid, & at the time it was cool, all the Barbarian & Dungeons & Dragons stuff.

Kinda left that behind in childhood & I wouldn't dare dress like that in public nowadays especially the way things are. 
I could see maybe the extreme few thinking that it was for attending a 'cosplay' event, but more then likely they would think that I am on my way to a 'Pride' parade Sick. Lol   

. . . . My interest in the gun remains though (possibly a sword still as well?)  
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Originally posted by Travis Morgan Travis Morgan wrote:

I could see maybe the extreme few thinking that it was for attending a 'cosplay' event, but more then likely they would think that I am on my way to a 'Pride' parade Sick. Lol

Coffee, meet nostrils LOL
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Beware.....Long Post.....

 

So I guess my Auto Mag story began when I was about 10-12 years old, circa 1985.  Following a dentist appointment and waiting for my older brother to be seen I wondered to the next door strip mall's gun shop.  Standing alone in a display case was a .44 with a bold price tag $1,000.00.  I was amazed by both the gun and the price tag and it made an indelible mark on my young mind.  Fast forward several years I finally got to see Sudden Impact and it was over for me.  A few years go by and the advent of the internet begins a further growing infatuation with the AM as more and more information and pictures is read and seen.  The very odd thing I think was in all that time I attended dozens of gun & knife shows here in Missouri and Kansas and never came across one until 3 years ago.  That being a TDE Model 160 .357 AMP in 8-inch non-ventilated barrel.  It was a tired looking gun with a scope mount of some kind.  I again was taken back to my childhood even though it wasn’t the .44.  I got the guy’s number and left it at that.

 

The following November my mother passed away rather suddenly.  Following all the estate division I was left with a modest sum in hand.  A few bills paid and vehicles maintained and then low and behold I open Armslist one afternoon.  What is listed, a TDE .44 AMP!  Having spent some time on Armslist in the past I was aware of potential scams as I’d found Auto Mag’s being listed for cheap before.  A little investigation and I find it’s actually listed by a legitimate gun shop.  I phoned them up.  Turns out they had literally just listed it on consignment and the owner was still standing at the counter!  I requested several pictures and made a deal later that day.  That was March of 2019.  Given my proclivity to research and find items on the internet within a few weeks I had obtained a 3 piece RCBS reloading die set along with ream die set.  Having boxes upon boxes of 30-06 brass I was on my way.  Another few weeks and I acquired a few used RCBS presses and all the remaining reloading components needed.  I purchased a box of SBR ammo to test fire the gun prior to getting the loading up and running.  Upon inspection I found that the accelerator block was broken.  I notified the seller and they replaced it straight away.  With the gun repaired I did a few test fires at my brother’s.

 

 

 

 

Flashback…Somewhere back in the early 2000s I had created an account on Ian’s site and started following several people that were well versed with the gun and eventually reached out to one – George Hebert.  I phoned George and we had a nice conversation about a someday dream future of ownership.  I kept George’s number in my several difference cell phone address books for the next several years.  So in March of 2019 when I received the new to me AM I took a long shot that the number was still good.  It was!  We again had a great visit and this time he was more than willing to help out a new owner with much more information than I could take in.  In addition to his general and extensive knowledge of what to do as a new owner he recommended absorbing as much of Jurras and Lomont as was available in the publications section on Ian’s site.

 

You’ll note that prior to owning an AM I had never reloaded anything.  I’ve been an avid shooter and hunter most of my life but never loaded anything other than a few shotgun shells as a teenager.  I have a very steep learning curve and am excessively detailed especially with mechanical things.  (My side business for the past 20-years being modifying performance two-stroke engines for classic Grand Prix replica Yamaha’s.)  All of which has been both a blessing and a curse; a blessing to keep me on track for loading safe and reliable ammunition but a curse in that I can get lost in the minute details of the pistol and the preparation of loading.  All in all though it has made my experience with the pistol much more rewarding I believe.

 

 

 

 

Wanting a classic case but not wanting to spend too much money I set out to build my own.  A few weeks later I had hand crafted a beautiful red oak case.

 

 

 

 

 

Sometime in the summer of 2019, again perusing Armslist, I came across another discounted bargain.  A phone call and email and here it came.  Another TDE El Monte that had been taken apart, basically the bolt had been removed and they couldn’t put it back together.  There inability was my gain, I picked it up for cheap!  And moreover, it came with the case, the wrench pouch, wood grips, two mags, two boxes of Corbon Hunter, a box of Norma and a lot of cleaning needed.  Upon full inspection the pistol was pretty gritty inside.  Deeper I dug the worse it got, very lite rust starting from years of sitting in the safe by my guess.  I tore it clear down to the frame and bead blasted the frame and polished all the remaining internals.  After getting it fully cleaned and functional again I’m pretty sure it hadn’t had more than 100 rounds through it.  Bolt was crisp and bright, the lugs just like they came off the mill.  Blue tint still shimmering from the bolt and barrel extension.  I was thoroughly satisfied with the results and quality of the gun.  Range time didn’t disappoint either, excellent function!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My next endeavor was a custom holster, something exotic, something unique.  Some stingray skin was purchased and delivered along with a pistol to my leather master friend.  A few weeks later and bam an awesome holster was made along with custom mag holder.  Full retention with a 3.5Lb gun!

 

 

 

 

 

 

I’d say that aside from the actual pistol itself, it has been rewarding to meet new people and assist others with their guns also.  One of those individuals was a gentleman in California.  Through a new relationship developed, a bit of horse trading later, I was the proud new owner of a 10.5-inch Jurras .357 AMP barrel.  Some more internet wizardry and a NOS set of RCBS .357 AMP dies was acquired.  Time to resize some brass!

 

 

 

 

 

With every intention of using the AM to hunt whitetail deer I set out to outfit the .357 barrel with a proper optic and mount.  Researching the previous options for base mounts I decided to make up my own and mount it based on the old Jim Herringshaw ‘Maxi-Mount’ dowel design.  I purchased a picatinny rail originally for a Mini-14 that was a 2nd for cheap and set it up in the mill.  A few hours later and a nearly custom made rail now sat atop the Jurras barrel.  A few weeks later I located a NOS Leupold  M8 4X pistol scope.  Knowing the recoil could be an issue I opted for a set of precision Vortex rings.  Mounted and ready to go I began loading a spread of charges with 158gn Hornady XTP and Speer DeepCurl bullets.  My local range only allows pistols on the pistol range, sadly I couldn’t get into he 50 yard rifle bay.  So, 70-feet was it.  A good starting point for having never shot a pistol, let alone a scoped pistol for accuracy off a rest.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In case you’ve ever wondered what these guns were capable of let me show you.  Here is an Alcoa 19.5” forged aluminum wheel.  I decided to ‘ring the bell’ at around 80-feet with the .357 one afternoon.  Unbeknownst to me it was boring holes in it like butter!  Those are 158gn FP-XTP holes and dents on the back wall!  

 

 

 

Deer season has came and went without any success this year.  But got lots of plans for the future with this cannon!

 

 

Here’s a few extra pictures for your hopeful enjoyment.

 

A little nighttime flame throwing.  (22.5gns of W296 behind a 240gn bullet)

 

 

 

 

 

Our 6’7” tall pastor shooting the .357 AMP.  (He had a huge smile on his face when he handed it back!)

 

 

Gone hunting setup.

 

 

Two’s better than one…..

 

 

 

An last but certainly not least.  My son designed this custom made shirt for Christmas and he and my daughter-in-law had it made.

 

 

I hope you enjoyed the long post as much as I have writing it up for you.  There’s more to come in the future, (shoulder stock anyone?), and we’ll see what else.

 

Regards,

Bill Wilson

Lee’s Summit, MO

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Thanks for the nice story Bill ! 
Interesting to read, you sure put alot of work into it to get what you want.
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Originally posted by Luc V. Luc V. wrote:

Thanks for the nice story Bill ! 
Interesting to read, you sure put alot of work into it to get what you want.

Luc,

I waiting a long time and certainly never wanted a safe queen.  Still considering a new one but got other things to spend the money for now.

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Have to say it was a pleasure meeting you beit by phone, it's hard to find honest people but I did with Bill along with some others on this site Steve , Jerry, George, Jon, William, Jeff, Bruce and sorry to those I may have left out
Bill I have to ask you a favor, can you get me two of those shirts in XXL...........Please Wink
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I second your thoughts on Bill.  I reached out to him and we spoke at length. I hope to get over to that side of the state to meet him in person.

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Awesome story, Bill - thanks! :)
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