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Jason,
I don't know the price as the dies are sold in a package with 2 boxes of Norma amo.
I will ask him if it's the 3 or 4 die set.


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It is the 4 die set.
Is it really better than the Hornady one?
(does the Hornady has the "taper crimp"?)
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Originally posted by John Nada John Nada wrote:

It is the 4 die set.
Is it really better than the Hornady one?
(does the Hornady has the "taper crimp"?)
Thanks.

The only Hornady sets I have seen are 3 die sets without the taper crimp die.

I have both brands and I have not used the Hornady set since I got a set of RCBS with a pistol I bought.  In my opinion, they are much better.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AutoMagyar Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Dec 2014 at 5:52pm
You simply cannot go wrong buying that 4 die RCBS set, ammo with it or not. The original RCBS taper crimp die in the set would cinch it for me.  Hard to beat the quality of the RCBS dies.
 
I have the old RCBS .44 AMP 3-die set with the TC die, but wish I had a 4-die set too, just because.  ;-) 
Just as these guys above have said, the carbide die for .44 AMP is overrated, for the price.
Now if it were realistically priced like other calibers' carbide dies, say like .40 S&W, then I'd buy one.  But not for that premium.
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John and AutoMagyar,
 
I went through my dies sets and came up with a 1970's 4 die set for John.  It's nice and clean, I's sell it for $110 plus whatever the shipping is.  I will not be responsible for customs or what customs does (ie, takes it or whatever).  To my knowledge, there is no issue with shipping dies from the US (though apparently Brass and components are not good).  I would be willing to include a new production RCBS expander that does not have a decapper for an additional $20.  I can fit it all in the older RCBS box which should fit in a priority mail small flat rate box and shipping is probably $20-30 or so overseas, but I would have to check using your address and see if I could ship them. 
 
AutoMagyar-I think you are here in U.S., correct?  Well, I have a 70's RCBS 4 die set where the label is rotten, it's missing the seater die (so there are really only 3 dies), and the knurling on lock ring of the sizing die is monkeyed up from pliers.  If you want to complete that 4 die set of yours, how about $75 plus shipping on this partial 3 die set one?
 
Anyway, just trying to help out.  If John gives me a nay on the 4 die set, it's welcome to someone else.  I was eventually going to get around  to listing it.
 
Shoot me an email if this helps you out and you are interested.  I can get pics, but this weekend is nuts, will probably have to be next week before I can them out.
 
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Thanks for your offer Jason,  but I'll pass.
I'd rather get the set localy if I chose to get the 4 die RCBS set.
Thanks anyway.

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John,
 
No Problem.  If you find a set and want to know if all the parts are there, feel free to post pics here and we all can help.  Hope you find a good Automag soon.  It must be tough in France to find Automag items, it's bad enough over here.....
 
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If you can get Hornady set with reasonable price, why not? Please think about this; What makes great dies? Looks? Brand name? Convenience?
In my opinion, good dies are those that allow you to make dimensionally uniform loads every time. If some one has both RCBS and Hornady and only used RCBS and never used Hornady, how could he or she can tell which is better? I'm not good enough to tell which tool is better without at least use them a little. If I were you, just buy Hornady and done with it. There are a lot more that you will have to think about and pay attention to.
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Porterhouse,
 
I have used both die sets in 44 AMP.  And both produce fine ammo. I have mainly RCBS dies, but have some from Lyman, LEE, Hornady, Herter's, Pacific, and Dillon. 
 
I find the Hornady set a pain to adjust the seater/cimper (not just in 44 AMP, and I hate them with lead bullets, as it's not easy to reset after cleaning out lube).  Once, adjusted, it's done and fine.  However, two people here I trust had problems with the Hornady set and the c-clip (that's not really what it is, more of a wire clip) breaking. 
 
I discontinued using my Hornady set for 44 AMP once I got an RCBS set. 
 
All that being said, if you need a 9.3x57 Mauser die set, buy the Hornady set as you can form the brass from 8x57 Mauser with no additional tools. 
 
So sometimes it depends on the caliber, and the press you use the dies in as well!
 
If you are only going to load one load (requiring minimal die adjustments), and only use jacketed bullets (which you should only with the AMP in my opinion), then the Hornady set should serve anyone fine.  Hornady used to have erroneous data out there this was a TiN set requiring no lube, but it's a steel set.  Again, no problem using the proper lube.
 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote wbautomag Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 08 Dec 2014 at 11:38am
Jason same here I got the Hornady die set  when I got my frist 44 because that was the only ones I could get quick and I  seen why after useing and after making up frist  few loads I ordered the RCBS dies and wont buy any more  Hornady dies.
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