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    Posted: 22 Feb 2016 at 11:00pm
I am trying to find some production information for the Lee Jurras Custom 100.
 
If this topic has been covered before I apologize for bringing it up again.  Could you please share the link with me either via PM or post on this thread.
 
If it has not been covered, through web searching I have only been able to find this:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
It states that only 100 of these were made in each caliber.  (This might be poorly worded?)
 
What I am trying to figure out is what is meant by:  "...... 6 1/2 in. VR or 8 1/2 non-rib (only 10 mfg. in each cal.) ....."
 
Does this mean:
  
10ea in .357AMP, 8 1/2 in. non-rib barrel
10ea in .41JMP, 8 1/2 in. non-rib barrel
10ea in .44AMP, 8 1/2 in. non-rib barrel
 
 
With the remaining 70 being a combination of .357AMP, .41JMP and .44AMP with the 6 1/2 in. VR barrels?
 
Also, weren't the Lee Jurras Custom 100 all serial numbered LEJ-xxx (being a 3-digit number starting with LEJ-001 and ending with LEJ-100).
 
This isn't including the Custom 200, 300, etc. where the serial numbers were changed to something like LEJ001, LEJ002, etc. (no dashes between letters and numbers.)
 
I'm just trying to figure out this out.
 
 
 
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Read this article and it should help.
        http://www.amtguns.net/articles/bruce-stark/is-it-original/
I believe the production numbers are correct.  Nobody has said differently.....so far.
 
The Custom Model 100's with the 8.5" barrels were serial numbered LEJ-80 through LEJ-90.
 
I believe this would mean that 11 of each caliber were made, not 10. 
 
Some may not know that Ian has an AMT Information Site here   http://www.amtguns.net/
 
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Bruce,
 
Thank you for reiterating these sites.
 
I went back and reread them very carefully this time.  Not just flying through them like yesterday (when I initially posted this).
 
I asked this in a panic, and I am still in sort of a panic.  Not as much as yesterday, but still torn none the less.
 
I was at a local gun show this weekend.  There was a L.E. Jurras Custom Model 100 for sale.  The is the first Auto Mag that I have seen at a gun show in YEARS.  Excited to see an Auto Mag for sale, and more so when I saw it was a Lee Jurras Custom Model 100.
 
After going back through the links above, and the information provided by Bruce, I am at a loss for words.  I am posting this as I have a short amount of time to continue with my offer on it, or pull my offer.
 
As I mentioned it is a L.E. Jurras Custom Model 100, .357AMP, with the 8 1/2" non-rib barrel.
 
Right about now there are probably folks saying to themselves "WHAT THE H_LL IS HE DOING?  BUY THE DANG THING!!!  IF HE DOESN'T I WILL!!!"
 
Well, here is the "OMG"...... the frame is serial number LEJ-05x (I put an x to hide the last digit).
 
So, from reading everything it appears that Mr. Jurras made 100, Custom Model 100's in the .357AMP.  All of them with 6 1/2" VR barrels.
 
EXCEPT LEJ-080 through LEJ-090 that had the 8 1/2" non-rib barrel.
 
Yes, this pistol that is for sale appears to have a mis-matched frame and barrel.
 
So, my Auto Mag community of friends, may I get your input?  I know that nobody can tell me what to do, but what would YOU do?
 
-Being the frame serial number doesn't match the barrel, should that be a deal breaker?
-Could there be a "logical" explanation for this set-up? (two people got together with their LEJ Custom 100's and swapped barrels?)
 
The way I see it, it is still a Custom Model 100, .357AMP, 8 1/2" non-rib barrel on a marked Lee Jurras frame (LEJ-05x).
 
Go ahead, hit me with what you got!  Any help and input is appreciated.   Big smile
 
 
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I do not know for sure, but my guess is that the gun is original.  I think the guns were put together as he got orders for them and not like in Bruce's writeup.  The barrel does say Custom 100 on it, correct?

For instance, there were only 35 of the 41 JMP's sold.

I have never seen a 8 1/2" Custom 100 barrel or complete pistol for sale.  I'd buy it quick.
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Yes, it is a L.E. Jurras Custom Model 100 barrel.  .357AMP with the 8 1/2" non-rib barrel.  Serial number on the frame is LEJ-05x.
 
I agree about the correctly marked frame.  I have only read about, and seen pictures of, the Lee Jurras frames marked with the LEJ numbers on them.  This is the only one I have seen in person.
 
It is not only what Bruce mentioned, but what Rick Maples published: http://www.amtguns.net/articles/rick-maples/lee-jurras-and-his-automags/   (Page 3 spells out the configurations and serial number markings).  Rick's publication does talk about the 41 JMP's too.
 
Unless the publication was mistaken about the barrel configurations and serial numbers?
 
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Yes, I got some of my information from Rick's article and I credit him at the end of my article.
 
I based my statements about serial numbers LEJ-80 through LEJ-90 on an article in the Volume 2 Number 3 issue of the "Super Vel Newsletter" March, 1974, page 2.
 
 
 
I also used to own LEJ-80 in 357 and LEJ-90 in 44.  Sort of a first and last of the 8.5" Custom Model 100's.  Barrels get swapped and separated from their "original" frames.  These barrels were also sold by themselves both by LEJ and Harry. 
 
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Thank you sir.  I also saw that in Lee's Club de Auto Mag Internationale.  Volume 1 no 1 (4 pager).  On Ian's "other" site.
 
 
 
 
 
 
The Custom 100 barrels were sold individually too?  So, this could be an original 6 1/2" VR barrel and the 8 1/2" non-rib been ordered extra.  The 6 1/2" VR barrel gone/sold/broken and this is all that remains.
 
Harry sold Custom 100 barrels also?  I'll be that wasn't liked too much by Lee.
 
I guess the next question would be, if it is-what-it-is, and the documentation doesn't support it, then what is it?
 
It isn't a true documented Lee Jurras Custom Model 100, .357AMP, 8 1/2" non-rib barrel, on a correct LEJ serial numbered frame.
 
Yes barrels got swapped on Auto Mags, but LEJ numbered items?  I guess a lot of things could have happened.  It would just be nice to know that it is a documented firearm and not a "Yeah, but this combination doesn't add up".
 
 
Decisions..... decisions.....
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Well, if the real serial number ends in "X" is a 44 AMP frame.  if it ends in a number it's a 357 AMP frame.  I know you used the x to hide the real number/letter.

A lot could have happened.  So dufus at a dealer could have done playing around.  All kinds of stuff could have happened.

I mean you need to figure out the money issue.  If it's not much money, who cares? 

That's still a great combination of a gun.  An 8.5" 357 AMP is pretty darn sweet shooter.


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Originally posted by Luvz2Shoot Luvz2Shoot wrote:

Thank you sir.  I also saw that in Lee's Club de Auto Mag Internationale.  Volume 1 no 1 (4 pager).  On Ian's "other" site.
 
 
 
 


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