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    Posted: 16 Oct 2018 at 4:56am
The seller has a bead on some buyers. I love my stuff, I might even be a bit obsessive for some of my hobbies, well maybe a touch more than just a bit but 'rabid' to use the words of the seller?

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/788464909

I guess I'm just a piker by comparison. Yes,  I actually could buy it but it's a case of one man's treasure.... and I'll never say ill of someone for whom this really is their Holy Grail...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote USA 1776 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Oct 2018 at 6:25am
First of the second run of XP BAMs. Well, I use "run" loosely. I think Brian only made 2 XPs by hand himself. I have XP02 and have never even seen a pic of XP01 and was told it may never be on the market. IT might be worth $25K, but not this one. Not to me, anyway.

I'm told Harry made a run of 10 XPs after agreeing to produce the BAMs. Serialization was slightly different, incl. the dash. Obviously this is the first one and may well have been Harry's personal gun. I do seem to remember this gun being sold on GB previously, however. Seem to recall price at the time was $10K, which I thought was high.

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I was right, and it was discussed here at length. One of our members had it originally.

...http://www.amtguns.info/baby-am-on-gunbroker_topic1498_page1.html?KW=bam+xp%2D001
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Not intending to be a knob, but apart from cosmetics, just how much engineering was required to develop the baby? 
               ... and also if anyone by any chance had noticed the similarities between the BAM and say for example, the Ruger MKIII? ...(Yea, I know - sacrilege to point that out)



I guess if your really that hard core (rabid) a collector $25,000 is worth it??
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I'd rather have several lesser AMPs that I could shoot if I wanted than one pistol I'd never shoot.
I say this rather hypocritically as I have a reasonable collection of Mauser C96 pistols none of which will taste any ammo on my watch except 2 refurbished parts guns...

Then again it is cool to have a one of a kind...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote XP001 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Oct 2018 at 7:31am
Travis, Not intending to be a knob, but apart from cosmetics, just how much engineering was required to develop the baby? 
               ... and also if anyone by any chance had noticed the similarities between the BAM and say for example, the Ruger MKIII? ...(Yea, I know - sacrilege to point that out)

To answer your question, he had to do no engineering apart from just the cosmetics, that was the only thing that was done to make the Baby Automags. The Baby Automag was built using the "AMT Lightning Pistol" model as a base

The history of the 22 pistol was that AMT decided to make a "match target" upper to fit onto the Ruger frame to make it more of a "target" gun AND it was made in stainless steel NOT blue. That forced Ruger to start making the MK pistols in stainless and get better QC. Then AMT decided to just make a complete pistol in stainless, also thinking the patent was expired, but this became an issue later as a "trademark" infringement lawsuit was filed. 

Anyways, AMT had the "lightning" pistol already in-house and all it took was Brian to come up with changing enough outside features to alter it into a closer copy of the Auto Mag. He didn't have to "copy" the Ruger MK cause they were already doing a similar model of it up to a point. 

Slight differences were AMT frames had an extra finger nub on the trigger guard and they used a solid cast(?) main spring housing lever, the frames also had different thickness of metal, the front metal cross member is attached differently and finished better on AMT-Ruger have the cut out slot visible. Ruger receivers are round, when AMT first sold just the "target barrel assy" they were also round but when they sold the "complete pistol- Lightning" they went to a square receiver. AMT logos also change between the receiver assy versus the complete pistol. Assy had "Acadia Machine & Tool" written and the complete pistol had "AMT" inside a circle.
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Thanks for providing all the details XP001
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