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    Posted: 28 Aug 2019 at 7:43am
I have always been intrigued with the AMT Hardballer with the long slide, just for aesthetic reasons. It’s completely impractical of course. 

Are they worth a damn as shooters though?

I have a general impression that AMT 45 autos are treated with almost universal disdain by 1911 aficionados due to perceived abysmal quality which translates into failure to function properly. 

Who here has first-hand experience they can share?
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I have a regular Hardballer and it can be finicky at times. The fitment wasn't that great. And I have heard that the longslide likes full house factory ammo to cycle well. I actually had a friend that used his longslide in competition and had a number of malfunctions, but he always ran re-loads. I think if you are willing to polish up components and maybe put some upgraded components in it, it would be ok. My regular hardballer does not give me much trouble anymore. But it's no Colt or Kimber. LolWink
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I bought one new in 1984 and it was a complete POS. Using military ball ammo, I was unable to feed a single round from the magazine. After poking a round into the chamber manually, it actually fired, but the empty case stove-piped on the way out. After tons of work and parts changing, I was able to get it to run fairly reliably but then the barrel burst. The lug tore downward on the bottom side of the barrel with two long cracks running down each side of it. I returned it to AMT and 5 months later it came back with a new barrel in it. I sold it shortly thereafter.

I bought another one a few years ago at a gunshow (cheap), but someone had already done some home-gunsmithing to it and it was AFU. The frame ramp had been cut/polished forward so far, it was never going to feed, so I ended up using the frame for a 22LR conversion. The barrel (not original) was so poorly fitted, it had to be replaced as well. So now I have a 7" 1911, but the only AMT part on it is the slide. The barrel is a nicely fitted Fusion along with a bunch of other miscellaneous parts. Unfortunately, the only frame that the AMT slide would fit on, was an old Essex, but it actually fits very nicely and functions perfectly on it.

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Run it up, until you blow it up, then back it down a bit.
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Tony—not exactly a ringing endorsement! 

I think I will stick to my Series 70 Gold Cup!
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After I got a 6" longslide the 7" suddenly didn't look nearly as silly. Of course, I discovered that after the prices started going up...

Fusion makes 7" slides now, for about what a whole used AMT went for not long ago. [sigh]

BTW, Clark Custom says they don't recommend barrels over 6" if you're shooting .460 Rowland; they say the breech starts to unlock before the bullet leaves the muzzle, and accuracy goes to pot.
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Here is my 460 Rowland built on a Colt Combat Elite.

I wish it was a 6".





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Originally posted by Pantera Mike Pantera Mike wrote:

Who here has first-hand experience they can share?


No, but I've looked them up a few times over the years. Most of the people who got one that actually worked liked them. But they suffered from the usual AMT quality control issues. As with most AMT products, they created a group of angry former owners...

Prices seem to be notching up, so if it's a good deal, why not buy it and give it a try? You can always boot it off the island if you don't like it.

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