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    Posted: 19 Jan 2022 at 5:14pm
Here a couple of video's at the shotshow 2022 with Patrick Henry III and a quick presentation of the new 44 AUTO MAG.
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Anyone else notice Patrick mention they are going to bring back the .357 AMP as well?

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lance C Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jan 2022 at 2:38pm
The .357AMP is, in my opinion, the better caliber for varmints and medium-size game.  The problem is finding bullets that will handle the 1800 to 2500 fps velocities without blowing up.
I shot two small deer and a javelina in Arizona 40+ years ago and the 150gr Sierra at 1850 fps blew up pretty bad.  
For jackrabbits and coyotes, I used the 90 gr Sierra 9mm bullet at just under 2500 fps.  It would kill a coyote in his tracks and what it did to jackrabbits had to be seen to be believed.
That was in an 8 1/2" barrel.  My current .357AMP barrel is 10 1/2" and MagnaPorted.  I have some 147 gr 9mm XTP bullets on order and expect to get between 1900 and 2000+ fps.  I'll try them on a hog or two and see how they perform.
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Lance,

Why are you using 9mm bullets in a not-9mm gun? There are plenty of proper 357 bullets available in any weight you would reasonably want?

I’ve done gelatin expansion tests of the Hornady 158gr XTP  in my 8.5-inch 357 Auto Mag and the bullets expanded perfectly and held together nicely.
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If you look around on here you will see my reference to the 357 Hornady Lever-evolution bullets and the fact that I have found the 140 grain bullets work very well for AM loads.  Terminal performance is great.
When you are up to your neck in alligators it is hard to remember your original intention was to drain the swamp
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Originally posted by Pantera Mike Pantera Mike wrote:

Lance,

Why are you using 9mm bullets in a not-9mm gun? There are plenty of proper 357 bullets available in any weight you would reasonably want?

I’ve done gelatin expansion tests of the Hornady 158gr XTP  in my 8.5-inch 357 Auto Mag and the bullets expanded perfectly and held together nicely.
I had excellent results with various 9mm bullets in my previous .357AMP.  Great accuracy and performance.  
The Sierra 110gr .357 bullet was good, but the 90gr 9mm gave me higher velocity, shot flatter and was fantastically accurate.  
I strongly suspect that a 9mm bullet subjected to 50,000+ psi is gonna expand to fill the rifling, no matter what the barrel I.D. happens to be.
I'll do some chrono and accuracy testing next week and post the results.
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I don't know if they would cycle the gun, but it would be interesting to see how fast a 65gr 9mm Lehigh bullet would fly from a 10" 357 Auto Mag. 

It's a hollow base bullet, so I don't think it would have trouble expanding and sealing in the 357 groove.

I have personally fired them at 2700+ fps from a 6" 9mm Super barrel (Tanfoglio Witness).  That's the 40 Super case necked to 9mm....similar to a 38 Casull if anyone remembers that one.

Powder used was VV 3N38.

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