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Ed,
Your front sight area is different, much shorter! Looks like they didn't like the front muzzle and ground off some material compared to the other barrel, reference my blue line showing what I mean OR maybe the front sight as a whole looks like it was filed down as a longer angle, not sure why anybody would do that BUT maybe it's a later barrel sight that is different from the above one, with Auto Mag anything is possible but I know that wasn't a factory site insert cut. After looking at all the other barrels your front site angle is so different and that makes the front end shorter than the others. refer to blue lines. This cutout was not factory for sure Or maybe previous owner "OPENED" it up and made it for the "rod" and was a happy camper, which is all that really matters at that point.

The front site cut is not the correct angle for factory insert refer to orange arrow and looks like the file guide rounded out the bottom flat, refer to the red arrow area and the back insert cut angle looks straight down flat compared to the factory. It also looks like they opps a little and filed too deep and dug into the topside of the rib, refer to pink linage and black arrow.

This site cutout must have been done by bubba or somebody making a good try, no offense to anybody. It is way too big for the factory inserts as you can see them together. I'm not even sure your "rod" will stay n that cutout unless the back or front stick into a dimple to hold it tight, recoil is a biggie here. Maybe this was the one where you use the "tape on" colors and the owner didn't like it so he cut into it? I'll bet he shot this big and just wanted the glow rod insert no matter of the loss of collector value, to each his own. Enjoy it
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No I got the gun like this last year and never touched the front sight, yes the rod is wedged into that dimple on the front, the back is square 
This Automag was in a fire and when I got it the case melted and you could not even pull the hammer back let alone and pull the cocking piece
The gun looks brand new and never fired, lugs in barrel and bolt are perfect as I was told but the person that rebuilt it Larry
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Do you know where to get the inserts ???????????, I used round but it could be wrong
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Even if you did get a factory insert your sight cutout is bigger so it will fall out. What you could do I get a piece of orange plastic and hand make one. The rod you have will "light" up better than an insert but an insert cut perfect will fill the cutout gap better and look more finished. Fiber rods always looks a little unfinished because of being round and never filling the gap or filling look blockish like the rest of the rib so it looks out of place.
Your piece I take it has been done over by Larry so it should be a good shooter and if it was mine I would try the rod sight and see how it works. I guess you could also make up a insert to compare but just not sure how the rod or the insert will hold in with recoil. Let us know once you run this how the rod holds on.
I'm sure if you sent me the pistol I could hand make an orange insert and test it out for you. 
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Thanks for the offer but this gun looks to have never been fired and that's what Larry thought  when he went thru it so what do you do, fire it or leave it be, I personally don't know, how many have never been fired ?????
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Originally posted by XP001 XP001 wrote:

Ed,
Your front sight area is different, much shorter! Looks like they didn't like the front muzzle and ground off some material compared to the other barrel, reference my blue line showing what I mean OR maybe the front sight as a whole looks like it was filed down as a longer angle, not sure why anybody would do that BUT maybe it's a later barrel sight that is different from the above one, with Auto Mag anything is possible but I know that wasn't a factory site insert cut. After looking at all the other barrels your front site angle is so different and that makes the front end shorter than the others. refer to blue lines. This cutout was not factory for sure Or maybe previous owner "OPENED" it up and made it for the "rod" and was a happy camper, which is all that really matters at that point.

The front site cut is not the correct angle for factory insert refer to orange arrow and looks like the file guide rounded out the bottom flat, refer to the red arrow area and the back insert cut angle looks straight down flat compared to the factory. It also looks like they opps a little and filed too deep and dug into the topside of the rib, refer to pink linage and black arrow.

This site cutout must have been done by bubba or somebody making a good try, no offense to anybody. It is way too big for the factory inserts as you can see them together. I'm not even sure your "rod" will stay n that cutout unless the back or front stick into a dimple to hold it tight, recoil is a biggie here. Maybe this was the one where you use the "tape on" colors and the owner didn't like it so he cut into it? I'll bet he shot this big and just wanted the glow rod insert no matter of the loss of collector value, to each his own. Enjoy it

Here's my poor-man's front site on a 6.5" 
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Looks like a factory Pasadena site insert to me.

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Originally posted by Auto Mag Auto Mag wrote:

Looks like a factory Pasadena site insert to me.

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Can't tell by that little picture how nice the finish is or isn't on your piece but remember the barrel front site is not factory and a true collector won't touch it, not saying it isn't nice but not factory knocks it out of that catagory , so my opinion is to enjoy it however you like without worry of losing more value than what it is, a nice piece. I also think the front of the barrel/site was cut/ground down to clean up the crown. I say this because of the front site block shows it being shorter than any others compared to it. 
If you look around there are still a few unfired pieces out there, a few years ago I got a Pasadena unfired. Sorry sold it already as other projects came up and I didn't have the time for playing with it. So ENJOY however you like without worry. 
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I do not think that the front site has been modified.  Here are some photos of a "B" 44 VR barrel I own.

It does not have an insert but the contour to me looks the same.  The difference is the way the sight was ct for the insert.





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