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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Rocketthon Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Jul 2019 at 11:33am
My current load for 44 is 29 gr of 296 under the 180 gr XTP, very satisfying load.  Twilight shooting or indoor range shooting is a blast.
When you are up to your neck in alligators it is hard to remember your original intention was to drain the swamp
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Go back a few posts and you will see you are very close to what I posted for a load.  It's a flame thrower but it gets the job done!.

You go through a lot of powder with that round.  Some years ago, I would hit the range with no less than 200 - 250 rounds of AMP at any trip to the range and you noticed your 1 pound cans of powder emptied out pretty quickly shooting the hotter rounds.

Interestingly the biggest problem I had with my Auto Mag shooting that volume of power and that number of rounds regularly,,,,  was breaking grips and popping off the safety lever lock ring.  I think I broke one sight screw once and popped off the trigger bar lock ring once.  I think I broke one bolt rotation pin and maybe one barrel latch and then maybe 2 extractors, but shooting thousands of super hot AMP rounds over the years I have honestly had very few problems and ZERO major failures. 

Its a great gun and works fantastically if treated well and loaded properly.

Enjoy

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I've really enjoyed the detail of reloading.  It's a challenge to get everything just right, starting with proper headspaced cases for my gun (1.303" is perfect for the hottest loads I can make up), to the case prep, the powder weight increment and finally the AOL to the perfect thousandth of an inch.  Purchasing powder and bullets in bulk now with over 1500 rounds loaded (some shot and reloaded) since I started in March.  My latest loading is with 200gn XTPs.  Loaded in lots of 10 rounds each from 23gn to 27gn with H110.  Need to hit the range again to see how the accuracy compares.  I loaded some up with 180gn XTPs also.  I plan to hunt whitetail this fall and want the best cartridge combo for out to about 100 yards.  I'd like to chrono some of the rounds at some point but currently don't own one.  Either way the round I choose won't be based on speed but target accuracy anyway.  But it's always fun to say you slung some lead at 2,000 fps or what ever it would be.

GH has been invaluable in all the help and recommendations since I purchased my gun, can't say enough about that.
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George is the man, he has forgotten more than most people on here will ever know and is willing to share that knowledgewithout talking down to you.
Yes I am looking forward to trying out my .357 Auto Mag but will be out of commission for the next 4-5 weeks, I had my right hip replaced yesterday and I can walk but its very sore. 
Looks like I have everything I need to to get started on reloading .357
Hey Bill hows that project coming along, cant wait to see it. 
And just for the record i'm not TD, just talking to friends about friends, that's what these boards are all about
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Originally posted by edkel1 edkel1 wrote:

(He) is willing to share that knowledge without talking down to you.


Unlike Lee Jurras…...
Run it up, until you blow it up, then back it down a bit.
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I never had the luck to meet or talk whit him as I just got into this hobby in the beginning of April of this year
I would love to have talked with him but he was gone almost 2 years before I found this place Unhappy
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p.s.   Do you still have the easy loader for the magazine. I would like to have a 3rd one ???? PLMK
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You didn't miss anything, Ed.

According to Lee, the probability of you coming up with a good "working" load for your Auto Mag was exactly Zero.

And what was it guys...help me here...the last school that taught internal ballistics closed down in 1963, and if you didn't graduate from there, you were a complete idiot and couldn't possibly figure out how many grains of H110 to put in an Auto Mag case.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Tony

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Auto Mag Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 Aug 2019 at 2:23am
WOW, very kind words Embarrassed

I'm sure I have spouted off as much as LEJ and maybe worse on some occasions, but likely motivated by very different things. 

One of my many flaws is getting sucked into stupid arguments or defending friends who I feel have been subject to personal attacks.

As for sharing knowledge, I am just doing what so many others did for me over the years.

People like Larry Grossman, Brian Maynard, Lee Jurras, Col Bob Gideon, Kent Lomont , Eric Kincel and Bruce Stark were invaluable in helping me to not give up on Auto Mags when I bought my first one it was broken and I didn't realize it, and with the help of many folks over the years, I was able to figure out how to make my Auto Mags work.  And I am truly grateful to each and everyone of them for their guidance over the many years.

Hope you all get the help you need, there are lots of helpful people here and some who may even know what they are talking about Tongue

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Originally posted by Rumore Rumore wrote:

You didn't miss anything, Ed.

According to Lee, the probability of you coming up with a good "working" load for your Auto Mag was exactly Zero.

And what was it guys...help me here...the last school that taught internal ballistics closed down in 1963, and if you didn't graduate from there, you were a complete idiot and couldn't possibly figure out how many grains of H110 to put in an Auto Mag case.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Tony


Well Tony, to use your words, not looking to get into any “purse fight” with you, but,,,,

 

I feel obligated to say that Lee was a legitimately talented and knowledgeable man who I found was also willing to share his knowledge freely and without hesitation to anyone who treated him decently and with respect.

 

Sure he could live up to his screen name of curmudgeon and he did not suffer self-proclaimed or instant experts very well, and I think he could smell a BS artist in about 2 seconds.  So was he crusty and crotchety and sometime just in a bad mood when he was not feeling well and suffering his various health issues including multiple bouts with cancer and watching his suffer similarly.  So YUP he had is "moments" as I do and everyone else does. 

 

But for me, he was a larger than life hero that I saw in the biggest gun magazines, on safari bumping elbows with the biggest names in the firearms industry and who built amazing guns and was actually the real deal.  And every time I spoke with him, he treated me decently with respect and to me was ALWAYS helpful and ALWAYS a pleasure to talk with.

 

Again, not looking to have a dust up with you on anything, just sharing a different observation and experience, that for me, knowing LEJ was an experience that I am very thankful for. 

 

I sure hope we don’t spend too much time here spitting on his grave.

 

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I originally began loading ammo at about 17 or 18 in the late 1960s (but never and not yet for any caliber AMP) and that aspect of my hobby crested in the early 1980s when my mom passed. It as well as was firearms in general was a hobby I shared with my late dad and we were in up to the hatband.
When mom passed it took the wind from our sails for a long time and reloading never came back into the foreground even when my dad and I experienced a 'rebirth' of out hobby many years later as it was short lived. Now, alone and still having dies for nearly 60 cartridges, and with the people's state enacting ever more rules and hoops to jump through I've more firm plans to begin reloading again.

The first time it was based on less than scientific methods and reliance on reloading manuals, magazines and COTW refs.  I never had a chronograph as I do now.

Which leads me to this question: has anyone here tried this system? Is it even possible to use on an  AutoMag? https://www.shootingsoftware.com/index.htm

Jerry
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